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To: WilliamIII
"We're asking her to pray for us."

This is no different than praying to her. Why obfuscate and deny? You are prayiung to her when you take up words to speak directly to her in request of favor. When Jesus was specifically asked how we should pray, He did not bring His mother into the mix, but directed us to call upon God directly as Our Father. No amount of tradition or pontification changes this fact.

Yet we do well to ackowledge Mary's participation in a special way where our standing before God is concerned, for she is indeed alive, and is indeed the earthly vessel whereby salvation entered into this world in the flesh of Christ Jesus. "Henceforth all generations will call me blessed." That I will gladly do! But I suspect not even Mary would expect us to look to her and call upon her for favor, but would rather point to her risen Son, who together with the Father and the Holy Spirit rule all things out of mercy for poor sinners.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 7:03:56 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Why obfuscate and deny?

Indeed? Why confuse prayer with worship? Are you really so confused you can't distinguish the categories?

30 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:41 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Fester Chugabrew
This is no different than praying to her.

A frequent misguided conclusion reached by the obtuse.

That I will gladly do!

When will you start?

But I suspect not even Mary would expect us to look to her and call upon her for favor, but would rather point to her risen Son, who together with the Father and the Holy Spirit rule all things out of mercy for poor sinners.

"His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever He shall say to you, do ye." John 2:5

39 posted on 01/04/2013 10:02:58 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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