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If only Romney were President...(Vanity - Heard this Lame Accusation Too Many Times)
1/2/13 | Me

Posted on 01/02/2013 3:45:06 PM PST by ziravan

I'm getting tired of the "See, and you guys didn't like Romney, so this is what you get" garbage floating around lately.

Assume a Romney Administration with the so-called 'fiscal cliff' debate extended into his watch, and this is what you've got:

WH: Republican. Congress: Republican. Senate: Democrat or barely Republican and not able to sustain a filibuster.

Here is President Romney at his press conference announcing a deal on the 'fiscal cliff', "As you know, Senate Democrat leaders have been intransigent on a budget deal that would avoid the fiscal cliff. In order to protect as many people as possible from the negative effects of the fiscal cliff, we've agreed in principle to a deal that provides tax protection for 98% of Americans".

The deal you would have seen would look almost exactly like the deal you see now.

Why? Democrats would have brought the government to its knees to get their way, held their heads up high, and been proud to do it.

RINOS caved and would have caved, even had they held the White House during this debate. This isn't about who has the levers of power; it's about who'll use them to stand up for their beliefs.

Even in this environment, the GOP has the tools to fight this. The House controls the purse strings. They didn't need a President Romney to avoid this outcome. They only needed a few stones.

The GOP could have had our backs. They didn't because the leadership has a very different agenda than the rank and file. To suggest that with Romney, the GOP-e would have functioned differently is to fundamentally misunderstand what's happening.

I've heard this "Until we control the Senate" garbage out of the mouths of current Members of Congress. It's a pathetic excuse for selling us out.

I held my nose and voted for Romney. Enough! Stop with the garbage about all the wonderful crap the benighted Mittster would have done for us. Mitt is part of the GOP establishment that brought you today's outcome.

The outcome would have been the same on his watch as it was on Boehner's.

THE PROBLEM HERE ISN'T THE LIBERALS PROSECUTING THEIR AGENDA.

IT'S OUR GUYS FAILING TO STAND UP FOR OURS.


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"That guy" in the White House is an ideologue. It would have taken and ideologue to beat him. That wasn't Mitt. Our problem isn't the lack of Mitt, or even the White House.

It's the lack of courage and conviction from our own guys. Republicans have the power to defeat the left's agenda in Washington, even after accounting for the 2012 election.

What they don't have is the courage of our convictions to do so.. Hell, the GOP-e doesn't even share our convictions, much less our courage. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

1 posted on 01/02/2013 3:45:16 PM PST by ziravan
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To: ziravan

Rick Santorum is right.

Congress isn’t going to help us, the GOP held states are the only ones holding the line at this point.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 3:48:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ziravan

Too bad you don’t like the obvious truth. Hope your fantasy keeps you warm at night.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 3:48:51 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: ziravan
The plan was to get Romney and GOP Senate. Jim DeMint discussed this last July. I would much rather have Romney being inaugurated two weeks from Sunday, and so should you.
4 posted on 01/02/2013 3:49:48 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: ziravan

You are one giant hypothetical. Artistic license, I guess.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 3:51:37 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Andrei Bulba

The obvious truth is that Mitt Romney was built of the same cloth that brought you last night’s vote. He wouldn’t have saved us from this deal. Like Boehner, he’d be endorsing it.

The only difference with a Republican Administration, at least with the so-called ‘fiscal cliff’ is that this deal would be presented to you as the REPUBLICAN alternative and we’d all be accused here of not being good little members of the GOP because we don’t support stupid economics 101.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 3:53:40 PM PST by ziravan (Choose sides.)
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To: ziravan

We simply would be facing the exact same situation if Romney won simply because the inauguration isn’t until January 20th so Obama would still be President.

Everything else is just speculation.


7 posted on 01/02/2013 3:54:44 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Perdogg

I voted for Romney. I would have must preferred he’d have won.

I doubt that would have changed the outcome of the ‘fiscal cliff’ because so long as the Democrats controlled any lever of power, they’d have fought for their agenda.

The GOP controls the House that controls the purse strings. That was more than enough to stand up for our beliefs. Hell, forget beliefs, the deal is stupid for the economy and will NOT bring in the revenue they suggest. The GOP had the power to do their jobs and protect the economy from this travesty.

They didn’t. They caved.

The GOP doesn’t stand up for our core convictions.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 3:57:54 PM PST by ziravan (Choose sides.)
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To: ziravan
Damning with faint praise:

At least [insert favorite RINO here] is better than Obama.

9 posted on 01/02/2013 3:57:54 PM PST by DManA
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To: ziravan

If only Herman Cain waas president! They did a Joseph with the coat of many colors on him, and the people bought it!


10 posted on 01/02/2013 3:58:04 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: ziravan

I was thinking of what a good, thoughtful response to your vanity might be, and only came up with: “See, and you guys didn’t like Romney, so this is what you get.”


11 posted on 01/02/2013 4:00:47 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Perdogg
The plan was to get Romney and GOP Senate. Jim DeMint discussed this last July. I would much rather have Romney being inaugurated two weeks from Sunday, and so should you.

Rather, yeah. MUCH rather? Probably not. The premise of the article is pretty spot on. Dems fight to win (and also have the media covering for them). Republicans are the French surrender monkeys of the political world.

12 posted on 01/02/2013 4:03:04 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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The GOP doesn’t stand up for our core convictions.

Hell, they don't even stand up for THEIR core convictions. Well, unless their core convictions are that letting Commies run wild is the best thing for the nation.

13 posted on 01/02/2013 4:05:48 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Paperdoll
If only Herman Cain waas president! They did a Joseph with the coat of many colors on him, and the people bought it!

They dispatched him pretty quick. He neutralized the race card so they saw him as a threat. Cain would have made a great President, but the same qualities that would have made him great, would make him a lousy candidate.

14 posted on 01/02/2013 4:13:12 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: ziravan
IT'S OUR GUYS FAILING TO STAND UP FOR OURS.

Exactly right. Liberalism is succeeding because there is no opposition.

15 posted on 01/02/2013 4:23:08 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Perdogg

You can’t nominate this and expect to win. We tried to tell you but you wouldn’t listen.

Romney: The Boy Scouts should admit homosexuals
8/7/2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915967/posts


16 posted on 01/02/2013 4:26:40 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Perdogg

This deal would have been the same regardless. The same actors would have been involved. Romney without a Senate would be close to the same after 1/20. He shares the lack of conviction, and this would lead to capitulation. It would have required a sweep of all three to make much of a difference going forward. As long as the drive by media has someone to support, the majority of voters will not know what is happening.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 4:48:52 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: ziravan
"That guy" in the White House is an ideologue. It would have taken and ideologue to beat him. That wasn't Mitt.

BINGO!

18 posted on 01/02/2013 4:55:27 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: ziravan
The deal you would have seen would look almost exactly like the deal you see now.

Put down the Slivovitz.

19 posted on 01/02/2013 5:10:19 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: ziravan
The deal you would have seen would look almost exactly like the deal you see now.

Right. The difference would be that it would have gotten MORE Republican votes, because some of the less committed conservatives would have voted Aye out of party loyalty to a Republican President.
20 posted on 01/02/2013 5:19:02 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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