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Fiscal Cliff Deal Limps Across Finish Line in House
Roll Call ^ | 1/1/2013 | Daniel Newhauser

Posted on 01/01/2013 8:36:34 PM PST by GVnana

The Congress that convened two years ago under the war cries of the tea party is slowly coming to an end with a Champagne-less whimper on New Year’s Day 2013.

The House voted late Tuesday evening, in a rare holiday session, to pass a fiscal cliff bill brokered without the involvement of the GOP majority and with far less than half of their votes.

The bill (HR 8) was amended by the Senate in the early morning hours on an 89-8 vote, carrying language crafted over the holiday weekend by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

The 257-167 roll call in the humbled House concluded close to 11 p.m., with 172 Democratic votes and only 85 Republicans, fewer of their own conference than GOP leaders hoped for perhaps, but more than enough to clear the necessary majority to send the legislation to President Barack Obama’s desk.

“Am I having a nightmare, or what?” Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio could be heard saying on the House floor, perhaps in jest. Boehner voted for the measure. Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy of California and Chief Deputy Whip Peter Roskam of Illinois all voted against it. Budget Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., who has largely remained quiet during the debate over the last few weeks, voted for the legislation.


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To: cherry

Good post.

AND the news media = the democrat party

We’ve had a dictatorship in the U.S.A. with the news media as the dictators


41 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: GVnana

And they all read it in detail and understood it before they voted?


42 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:16 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: GVnana

To hell with the GOP. Bu-Bye.

My America is gone. I go down with every damn benefit accorded!

I have all that military crap behind me. FU Obama, I’m In, Can’t do shit. FU


43 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:34 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: entropy12
Great news for the middle class. The Bush tax cuts were all expiring, but are now made permanent. I am admiring McConnell’s negotiating skills to get this done. AMT gets indexed, Death tax gets indexed, capital gains & Dividends at 15% rate permanently. All good for middle class....absolutely right - never again will Obama and the rest of the 'rats be able to use these as bargaining chips to push 'pubs around (although of course they'll push them around in other ways) - except that they couldn't stop raises in tax rates for the upper 1.5% of earners (which can be lowered again in the future) this doesn't seem like such a bad bill, for a temporary fix, at all....
44 posted on 01/01/2013 9:09:54 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: celtic gal

Michelle Bachmann is a patriot. She also has actually run a private business, as few politicians have.


45 posted on 01/01/2013 9:10:00 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
Great news for the middle class. The Bush tax cuts were all expiring, but are now made permanent. I am admiring McConnell’s negotiating skills to get this done. AMT gets indexed, Death tax gets indexed, capital gains & Dividends at 15% rate permanently. All good for middle class....absolutely right - never again will Obama and the rest of the 'rats be able to use these as bargaining chips to push 'pubs around (although of course they'll push them around in other ways) - except that they couldn't stop raises in tax rates for the upper 1.5% of earners (which can be lowered again in the future) this doesn't seem like such a bad bill, for a temporary fix, at all....
46 posted on 01/01/2013 9:11:17 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Yosemitest

WHO are the 85 Republicans we need to PRIMARY OUT of office?


I hope the majority of those 151 Republicans who voted no tonight also vote no against Boehner as Speaker this coming Thursday.


47 posted on 01/01/2013 9:11:57 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Logical me

Exactly. Only a fool believes the GOP won’t cave again.


48 posted on 01/01/2013 9:13:15 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: entropy12

As well as a ton of new spending, and no cuts to departments that actually existed. The GOP gained nothing in this negotiation. In fact, they lost ground.


49 posted on 01/01/2013 9:13:15 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Congrats, you are one of the few who understands the subtlety of what McConnell has achieved.

When Bush signed the tax cuts, they were temporary. Which means the democraps can let them expire and not be accused of raising taxes. Now they are PERMANENT, which means if they try to increase them, IT WILL BE A TAX INCREASE transparent and obvious.


50 posted on 01/01/2013 9:14:59 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
This bill as passed saved me a ton of money.

We're all thrilled that it worked out so well for you.

Who needs all that "capitalism", "limited government", and "principles" crap anyway.

51 posted on 01/01/2013 9:15:17 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Founding Father

Just go back to the debt ceiling vote and see who voted for that. Then check the no vote for this vote and you will know the undercover RINOs.


52 posted on 01/01/2013 9:16:11 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: Yosemitest

My Rep (Ted Poe) did the right thing. Knew he would. Had a long, sit down, face to face chat with him in his Kingwood office about 7 years ago. He’s a true Tea Party kind of guy.


53 posted on 01/01/2013 9:16:56 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: entropy12

You are correct. There were some silver linings to this grey cloud. I would add that the tax increases on the rich will probably not raise any money due their supply side effect. Should we elect a President in 2016 and get back to adding Senate seats in ‘14 and take over that chamber in ‘16 if not in ‘14, we need to reform the tax code. We can fix the rates at that time. We need a real conservative though. Romney didn’t win anybody to our side by compromising. So, we might as well go for what we actually want, rather than start the retreat before the votes are even cast.


54 posted on 01/01/2013 9:16:56 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Ingtar

One thing at a time. Now that the middle tax rates are PERMANENT, the democraps just can’t let them expire as was possible with Bush’s law. If they try to increase the rates, it will be a transparent tax increase.

I am disappointed over the lack of spending cuts just as you are. But the repubs will have more leverage to do that in 2 months during the debt ceiling imbroglio coming up. I will be mad as hell if the repubs cave in then. For the time being, I am happy with the FC bill as passed.


55 posted on 01/01/2013 9:19:32 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
I am happy with the FC bill as passed.

You just ain't real bright, are you?

/johnny

56 posted on 01/01/2013 9:22:12 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yosemitest; Grampa Dave; tubebender; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; ScottinSacto; ...

THANK YOU!!! I hope all you Schwartzenegger voting CA Repellicans note that Tom McClintock stuck to his guns!!! If you’d have got out and voted for him for Governor, just think how much better off we might well be today in CA... and maybe even the nation!!!


57 posted on 01/01/2013 9:22:40 PM PST by SierraWasp (Conservative, constitutional & capitalistic thinking is the last refuge from pussy liberal thought!!)
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To: entropy12

I think you had a bit too much from the New Years’ party...McConnell’s negotiating skills??

If he as anything but the turkey necked do-nothing piece of shit that he is, all those (indexed? They should be NIXED) and more would have been in something a bit easier to swallow than OCare.

Again, NO debate, NO transparency, NO reform, NO cuts, NO ANYTHING to get behind. Lay off the GOPe kook-aide


58 posted on 01/01/2013 9:22:40 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: impimp
Deficit spending is a tax in advance. Do you recognize that?

Yes. And what makes you think I'm in favor of it? Raising taxes results in reduced revenues and even larger deficits. Do YOU recognize THAT?

59 posted on 01/01/2013 9:25:20 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: cherry

Why, did the DEM party drop trow and surrender w/out a whimper??

Who came out w/ Plan B when the the first sentence was on paper w/ Plan A? Who let the back-room deals continue? Who kept the rest of the party in the dark about said dealings? WHy tried to arm-twist to get Plan B passed when it wouldn’t pass the smell test?

Nope, the GOPe did that all by itself. Time to hang up the GOP cheer leading outfit, it won’t work this time.


60 posted on 01/01/2013 9:26:40 PM PST by i_robot73
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