Posted on 12/31/2012 4:02:57 PM PST by DogByte6RER
Mexican Narcoterrorist Region May Abandon Catholicism for Islam
It would seem as if Bishop Ruiz’s brand of Liberation Theology has had the same effect on Chiapas as on Europe. Chiapas is poor, but it’s now also appearing to trend Islamic as any region under the influence of the left eventually does. When you kill the local religion and replace it with social justice, foreign religions eventually take its place.
In the mid-1990s, a leftist resistance group which calls itself The Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN) made Chiapas its home. Its attempts to fight the Mexican Army repeatedly failed, but the Zapatistas are still very active in the district’s rural areas. Chiapas is considered a dangerous place, where every home has an arms arsenal of its own; and like many other places in Mexico, Chiapas’ streets have become the battlefield where the government and local drug lords wrestle for dominance.
Chiapas, however, harbors an even more sinister secret: It is also a hub of radical Islamist activity.
Catholic Mexico is in the midst of a crisis of faith. According to a local businessman, who asked to remain anonymous, it is widely believed that within a decade, Chiapas will be the first federal state in Mexico to turn its back on the Church.
“The Muslim missionaries are very active there,” he said. “It’s hard to know exactly how many people have converted to Islam over the past few years.”
In December 2011, the US authorities released an indictment filed against Lebanese drug lord Ayman Juma, which exposed Hezbollah’s involvement with the Los Zetas drug cartel. According to the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), Los Zetas is the most technologically advanced and most dangerous cartel operating in Mexico.
Juma was indicted in absentia for smuggling 85 tons of cocaine into the US and for laundering $850 million for Los Zetas. He was also accused of serving as a go-between for the Mexican crime syndicate and the Shiite terror group.
According to US officials, for a modest 8%-14% commission, Juma’s money laundering process would take about a week. The operation involved bank accounts in dozens of countries, making it virtually impossible to track the dirty money.
US intelligence concluded that Hezbollah has established sleeper cells, intelligence infrastructure and training bases in Mexico and other South American countries. The Shiite group is also helping the drug lords build smuggling tunnels under the US-Mexico border and satellite images show that they are nearly identical to the maze of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border.
Hezbollah is also training the cartels’ operatives in the dubious art of explosives, helping drug lords improve their bomb-making skills.
Now why would they need to learn how to make better bombs?
“Long ago a young man sits and plays his waiting game
But things are not the same it seems as in such tender dreams
Slowly passing sailing ships and Sunday afternoon
Like people on the moon I see are things not meant to be
Where do those golden rainbows end?
Why is this song so sad?
Dreaming the dreams I’ve dreamed my FRiend
Loving the love I love
To derka derka are just some words I’ve heard when things are being said”
James `Mohammed’ Taylor
just like Muslims...just like the beginnings of Mormonism.....
I expect the same from many American men...give them a chance to hold women as pure property withouts rights, you have islam....
wherever and whenever women are enslaved, its back to the stone age for that society....
glad I'll be dead by the time it hits this country really hard....30-40 yrs....but my poor children and grandchildren.....
Lord....save us....
Very, very unlikely. Historically, many conversions have had to do with the perceived strength, influence and territorial aggressiveness of the adherents of religion in question. Islam fails on all three counts. What’s worse, its practices conflict with traditional Latin American customs, as well and indigenous Indian ones.
They’re not really very Christian now, are they?
They’re not really very Christian now, are they?
would not surprise me a bit
The armies as such had very little interest in that, and the Aztecs even less.
By 1531, after several decades of Spanish domination there were very few -- perhaps a hundred or less -- indigenous Catholic converts in Mexico. But by 20 years after that, they numbered in the millions.
What made the difference? Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe.
CCC841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.
In the book ‘The Broken Spears: The Aztec Account of the Conquest of Mexico’, it is described that the Aztec leaders of many areas were insisting? (pleading?) to be converted to Christianity, and that Cortez had to insist/explain, that they learn something about what they were doing first, that they needed to understand what accepting Christ meant.
Great, just open those borders.
ABANDON definition: force the public into Islam through terror tactics, murder, rape and abuse. There I fixed it!
“What made the difference? Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe.”
Someone should have told the Bishop of Mexico. He didn’t seem to have heard anything about Juan Diego, the apparition, or any miraculous mass conversion of the Indians. In fact, it wasn’t until over a hundred years later that we have any evidence of that story.
Thanks for this recommendation. I went over to amazon.com and found a paperback edition for $0.01 + $3.99 postage/handling, and I’m going to read it with interest.
(I am not discussing Orthodoxy here, because we Catholics do not regard the Orthodox as heretical: Catholics and Orthodox share virtually identical doctrines, Scriptures, Sacraments, moral law, etc.)
Of the three, Protestantism is (I would say) most similar to Catholicism because Protestants generally still retain a belief in One God who is Creator of heaven and earth; a correct belief in the Trinity; a Nicene Christology; and most of the canon of Scriptures handed down via the Catholic/Orthodox Church. Some Protestants have retained many of the historic doctrines and practices of the first 1500 years of historic Christianity.
Islam (I would say) comes in 2nd, because, as Monotheists, they believe in a single God who is Creator of all that exists, and who is the judge of the living and the dead; however their understanding of Christ is totally screwed-up, they had no belief in the Holy Spirit, and their additional pseudo-scriptures (Quran and Hadiths) are false and quite possibly demonic.
Mormonism (I would say) comes in last, because it involves (like Islam) a false pseudo-Scripture based on either deliberate fraud or demonic influence; and --- even more disturbing --- does not acknowledge one Creator and Judge of all, but rather myriads of gods and goddesses.
This is not a judgment of the moral fitness of Protestants, Muslims, or Mormons (a judgment no one can make but God alone); it is just an overview of the three creedal movements which originally sprang from historically Judeo-Christian doctrinal roots.
Huei Tlamahuiçoltica, recounted in a phenomenally reliable oral tradition and then committed to writing in Nahautl in ca. 1570, within the same generation as the apparitions themselves.
“The work was initially published under the auspices of Dr. Pedro de Barrientos Lomelín, vicar general of the Mexican diocese, at the press of Juan Ruiz in 1649.”
Also, if the tradition was so “phenomenally reliable”, why is the story so inaccurate? For example, it says that in 1531 Juan Diego is running around having dealings with Bishop Zumarraga, who wasn’t even in Mexico in 1531. It seems to me, even if they were transmitting the story faithfully until it was published, at best, they were transmitting a demonstrably unreliable account.
With the title of Protector of the Indians and bishop-elect (before formal consecration), Juan de Zumárraga arrived in Mexico on December 6, 1528. He is listed in the ecclesiatical chronicles as Archbishop of Mexico 1528-1548.
A very old and battered partial (16 page) Nahautl manuscript copy of the Nican Mopohua, dating c. 1556, can be found at the Public Library of New York.
The Nahuatl document I mentioned before, the Inin huey tlamahuiçoltzin, is kept at The National Library of México.
Yes, I’m sorry, I was incorrect, he was in Mexico earlier, before he went back to Spain, so he could have been around in 1531, I suppose, granting audiences to Aztec peasants. If so, it’s strange that he never seemed to mention this most dramatic event in any of his writings. There are other problems in the account, though, that I find hard to dismiss. For example, claiming the image is miraculous, when it’s clearly a fairly crude painting, is a rather large one.
As for the manuscript, it’s dated to 1556, but that’s just an estimate. We have no date in the manuscript, no author, and no provenance, so it’s an educated guess that may be accurate, or not. We do know for certain that a cult of Guadalupe was mentioned in 1556, by Bustamante, who denounced it as falsely attributing a painting of Mary made by an Indian as a miraculous relic. That sure sounds familiar. I wouldn’t be surprised if that cult had written down its fantasy in manuscript form at some point, and that is what became the basis for the 1649 account.
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