Posted on 12/25/2012 1:40:55 PM PST by grundle
Washington Metropolitan Police Department is investigating whether NBC’s David Gregory violated D.C. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30 round magazine as part of an interview during Sunday’s “Meet the Press.”
“So here’s a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. Now isn’t it possible that if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?” show moderator Gregory asked Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association.
Possessing a large capacity ammunition device, such as a magazine, is illegal in the District of Columbia if the device holds more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The code also specifies the large devices are illegal regardless of whether or not they're attached to a firearm. Gregory showed the magazine Sunday without a firearm attached.
NBC’s studios, from which “Meet the Press” is broadcast, are located within city limits. The network did not respond to CNN’s requests for comment.
In the wake of the school shooting in Newtown, gun control advocates have been pushing for a limit on high capacity magazines. Such a restriction is one of the items President Barack Obama mentioned last week when he announced an administration effort to curb violence.
“I don’t believe that’s going to make one difference,” LaPierre told Gregory during the show.
Several conservative commentators first raised the issue of whether Gregory had broken D.C. law by using the magazine.
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“...if we replaced them and said well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage... “
If it takes 10 minutes for the police to arrive, limiting a maniac to 5 round magazines will not make much of a difference. And that is assuming that maniacs will obey the new laws.
IIRC, the USMC Known Distance rifle qualification course required us to fire 10 rounds rapid fire from 200 yards. From a standing position we dropped to sitting, fired 5 rounds, changed magazines and fired another 5 rounds.
We did the same at 300 yards, but it was from standing to Prone, 5 rounds, change magazine, 5 more rounds.
60 second time limit.
Many of us managed 10 rounds in a 12 inch bull on both rapid fires.
Of course, we had the 10 rounds slow fire, Standing position from 200 yards, then slow fire at 300, 5 Kneeling, 5 Sitting. We finished with 10 round Prone slow fire at 500 yards.
All with iron sights.
If I have to follow the law, and Joe Blow down the street does or risk imprisonment, then guess what, so does a journalist!
How did Gregory even obtain a 30 round clip. Who gave or sold him this illegal clip? Was money from the studio involved in the purchase. Think RICO.
We’re in agreement...and my main point stands, the Marxists have won even if it sentences them to their ultimate defeat. At that point, we’ll both be defeated. The liberty that our country enjoyed was only made possible by an undeveloped and relatively unclaimed property. That condition no longer exists on this planet. Like Yuri Bezmanov once said “There is no where left to go.”
save for later
David Gregory’s use of a 30 round AR-15 magazine as a prop on Meet the Press to support their national banning was clearly in pre-meditated violation of the law banning their possession in the District of Columbia where his show originated.
Gregory’s act exactly proves what opponents of such restrictions have been saying: such a ban will not stop a person hell-bent on breaking the law. If Gregory is not prosecuted it also proves other commonly held beliefs about liberal government and liberal media.
Advocates of banning magazines above a certain capacity ask who needs them. Putting aside that we tread on dangerous ground when we put any Constitutional right to a test of need (for example, who really needs to trample on the American flag), the burden of proof is that the cost of such a ban will be justified by improving public safety. In an era of trillion dollar federal deficits, this raises a question of best use of finite government resources. If history is any guide, few people who already own any of the estimated 100 million such magazines in private hands can be expected to turn them in. Aren’t we better off allocating our money to improve school safety rather than fund a war on newly-outlawed firearm accessories?
I would remind people that while we are now having a “national conversation” on firearms regulations, we have yet to have a similar conversation about what changes we must make to the treatment of citizens with mental health issues, not to mention how we are going to fund any changes that we decide to make.
If we get down the road a few months on these topics and the loudest voices on the left still give the highest priority to funding the waging of a new war on firearms accessories, above funding improvements in mental health or school safety, we will know who the real ‘gun nuts’ are. And they won’t be the people with NRA bumper stickers.
This clown either believes in enforcing gun laws or he doesn’t. Let’s see which.
As I said, I can find no evidence to dispute that conclusion.
I have not yet seen a society with enough wisdom in the people, to reverse the course of Socialism, once allowed.
“There is no where left to go.”
At present, that appears to be the case, however, Russia is traveling back now. It is uncertain how much of an economy Russia will be able to produce or support.
RICO — I love it!!
By the way, there is talk that maybe he used a ‘prop’ or not a real magazine.
Well, you sell a baggie of oregano as pot, you are busted for pot.
You use a toy or bb or airsoft gun, cops shoot you dead (or you can get prosecuted if they miss with their 30-rnds).
I was terrorized by the display, on SUNDAY morning by a respected journalist on a SAFE news broadcast, of the 30-rd magazine, which has me still hiding under by bed. If those large capacity magazines can infiltrate NBC, they can come get me too. Or add Domestic Terrorism to Gregory’s charges.
If there's not another gun there to stop him, he has enough time to use any size magazine or even a single shot weapon to commit all the carnage he wants.
Or maybe this is the real joke: "isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?"
So, our solution to a mass murder is to only have half the parents suffer the tragedy of losing their children? Killing 20 kids is bad, but killing 10 would be OK?
Or, as I said in my column for tomorrow -- is our goal just to make it take a little longer to kill people? It is rare that a shooting ends because the killer is confronted while he is still actively shooting. There is no indication that the shooter in Newtown ran out of time. But we know he had two guns he didn't even use, so even if they had been limited to 10 bullets each, that was 20 more people he could have killed at a moment's notice, even without any extra rifle magazines.
Studying the history of mass shootings, the number one way a killer has been stopped (as opposed to running out of victims, or deciding to end the massacre on their own) has been when they use high-capacity magazines and they get jammed. You might say that the less-capable high-capacity magazines actually save lives.
I remember standing at the 500 yard line thinking “man that
is a loooong way away”.
So someone could have standing to see it overturned.
Of course in this case, it's about seeing a lib hoisted on his own petard. Gregory would probably argue he's above the law.
“So, our solution to a mass murder is to only have half the parents suffer the tragedy of losing their children? Killing 20 kids is bad, but killing 10 would be OK? “
Along these same lines, one commenter said If schools were protected by armed persons, then the shooters would go to other places, like malls.
So - we leave kids unprotected to save the malls????
Like you say, this is funny!
So. Much. Irony. I don’t even know which is more ironic. Is it the fact that Gregory is ignorant that the very law he is arguing for is already in effect in the D.C. area where his show is filmed? Or is it the fact that Gregory may be in trouble by the very same law that he is advocating for?
All he has to do is say he had a replica.
This is what I mean:
“It’s not known whether the magazine Gregory had in his hand was authentic or a prop. D.C. police spokeswoman Gwen Crump told CNN the department is investigating the matter and would have no further comment at this time.”
Same here. Days later I still can't sleep. This whole episode has caused me untold emotional distress! I think the only way to calm my jangled nerves might be to contact my attorney.
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