Posted on 12/23/2012 1:52:50 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
Nowadays, however, there are four states that require no permit at all to carry a gun, and 35 states have permissive “shall issue” or “right-to-carry” laws that effectively take the decision of who should carry a weapon out of law enforcement’s hands. These laws say that if an applicant meets minimal criteria — one is not having been convicted of a felony, and another is not having a severe mental illness — officials have no choice about whether to issue a permit.
Some states go even further by expressly allowing guns where they should not be. Nine states now have “carry laws” that permit guns on campuses; eight permit them in bars; five permit them in places of worship. In Utah, holders of permits can now carry concealed guns in elementary schools.
Among the arguments advanced for these irresponsible statutes is the claim that “shall issue” laws have played a major role in reducing violent crime. But the National Research Council has thoroughly discredited this argument for analytical errors. In fact, the legal scholar John Donohue III and others have found that from 1977 to 2006, “shall issue” laws increased aggravated assaults by “roughly 3 to 5 percent each year.”
The federal government could help protect the public from lax state gun laws. For starters, the Fix Gun Checks Act, proposed last year in Congress, would close gaping loopholes in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and make a huge difference in identifying many people who should be denied permits under “shall issue” laws yet slip through the state systems.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Using the First Amendment to argue for cancelling the Second...
...even though the Second guarantees the First.
Hmmmmm....
I choose not to be a victim. I carry concealed. I have homeowners, auto, RV, boat,vehicle, health and personal liability insurance, I have fire extinguishers, smoke and CO alarms. I have alternate fuel and electricity sources. I don't gamble.
Its the NYT, of course its a lie.
Since when do public employees get to determine the rights of their employers, the citizens?
“Liberals have a primal fear of handguns.”
Liberals have a primal dislike of free men, whom they cannot control.
The classic liberal response to a rape victim... "Better not resist, just lay back and try to enjoy it. And hope he doesn't maim or kill you."
Mark
Mark
“Figure out where you might hide your guns.”
When it gets to the point you have to hide your guns, it has got to the point it is time to use them for the purpose envisioned in the Second Amendment.
Only in the hands of potential victims... The NYT is certainly a big fan of genocide, just look at their defense of Walter Duranty's reporting to this very day.
I have no doubt that the NYT was a HUGE supporter of the Sullivan Act, which guaranteed that guns would stay out of the hands of immigrants (Irish, German, Jewish, etc) and Blacks.
Mark
“They are looking to start a war.”
They are indeed. Idiots. Madmen.
Hell, if one follows the logic (illogic) of the NY Times, one would have to conclude there were no murders prior to the invention of guns. That would surprise Julius Caesar, just to name one.
“If a war starts,it won’t stop until one side or the other is utterly destroyed.There will be no peace terms this time.”
I expect you are right.
No political hay to make there -
Medical errors per year:
excerpt:
“Each year the death toll in relation to medical errors is staggering. Besides medical errors, there are 99,000 people that die each year from hospital acquired infections. This is just above the overall death rate for medical errors with 98,000 people dying each year from medical mistakes”
I am 59 Years Old and I never imagined I might die in a hail of gunfire, especially coming from some Jack Booted Thugs sent to my House by a TYRANNICAL American Government.
Nowadays, I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility...
World's Largest Army”
spread this far and wide - now this only accounts for licensed hunters - there's undoubtedly more than twice that number who have guns for sport and/or security.
They aren't going down easy - why do you think the gov’t has, systematically over the past dozen years, ‘gifted’ local sheriff/police departments with SWAT vehicles, even tank - and we now see them practicing S.W.A.T. raid across America, for the slightest of excuses - one was for overdue college loans! and MANY, one just the other night in my little neighborhood, are conducted on “oops. wrong address.”
I suspicion instead, the increased terror raids are more to provide training and to justify the budget - and keep it coming - for the maintenance of the bloated equipment and personnel.
“There is NO reason for Mississippi to not issue me a license so they “shall issue” me a license without me having to kiss anyones butt.”
There is no reason for a person to need a license to go armed. It is a constitutional “right” to keep and bear. If one uses a weapon against another, you will be judged on whether the shooting was justified regardless of license. Applying for a license is nothing more than backdoor central registration
In an unpublished report, engineering statistician William Sturdevant found that concealed carry licensees had arrest rates far lower than the general population for every category of crime. For instance:
Licensees were 5.7 times less likely to be arrested for violent offenses than the general public - 127 per 100,000 population versus 730 per 100,000.
Licensees were 14 times less likely to be arrested for nonviolent offenses than the general public - 386 per 100,000 population versus 5,212 per 100,000.
Further, the general public is 1.4 times more likely to be arrested for murder than licensees [ see Figure I ], and no licensee had been arrested for negligent manslaughter.
from:
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba324
Scourge?
I would much rather spend an hour in a room full of concealed carry permitees than a room full of NYT reporters or their editors.
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