NRA’s Press Conference of 12/21/12: An almost masterful strike. (Part 1)

gunfreezone.net ^ | 22 December, 2012 | Miguel

[marktwain]

Edited for profanities. Click link to see article.

[Vesparado]

You’re right, of course.

[Clinging Bitterly]

I would agree, full time cops in every school is not a good idea. Where I went to school, cops were not allowed to enter without a specific purpose (i.e. a warrant) and that is the way it should be, school is a sort of personal space.

A protective agent with the rights and duties of any ordinary citizen is all that would be needed, and worth talking about.

[tanknetter]

A protective agent with the rights and duties of any ordinary citizen is all that would be needed, and worth talking about.

It's really all about deterrence, right? There have been lots of stories about how criminals, including spree killers, actively avoid situations where they might be confronted with someone with a gun. The one that pops immediately to mind is how 11% of US burglaries take place when the victim is home, while almost 50% do - the reason being that burglars fear armed homeowners a LOT more than they fear cops.

I think a combination of visible presence, be it cops or private armed security, and explicit/publicized permission for teachers with valid CCW permits to carry on school property would do it.

I think it also makes a lot of sense to bring firearms training and gun clubs back into the schools. The big issue here isn't "guns", but the way guns have been demonized and mystified within society. Kids should be exposed to firearms early in their lives, giving them an understanding of what they can do and instilling a healthy respect for them while demystifying them at the same time.

[Domangart]

Go to KCRA.COM for a strange home invasion. The shooter is still dead.

[firebrand]

What is wrong with the NY Post? They call LaPierre a gun nut on their front page today and have been consistently on the wrong sides of this issue. Are they convinced they will lose circulation if they defend the Constitution? I am seriously considering not buying the paper anymore, but maybe they are looking at what they think is their bottom line. Disgrazia!

[MaxMax]

More alcohol was consumed during prohibition than before the law.
And, The 2nd amendment was meant to protect us from what they're
talking about doing to the Constitution, breaking it.

Somewhere there is a plan to take the guns and worry about courts later. The plan probably
is to deal with it later and grab the guns while the grabbing is good. But there's a flaw,
more Americans are arming themselves just hearing about a ban. And I doubt local officers
will want anything to do with it since they are not military and can just say no.

The only recourse would be to call up the national guard to do the dirty work.
But will they even have ammo in their guns? And are Troops willing to kill Americans?

[trebb]

I dunno. I think shifting the conversation to the subject of how to protect children in schools with guns was good, but talking about having a cop in every school, not so much.

You have to put it in context. How do you protect children in schools without some sort of security which involves an armed opponent to the bad guys? Do you actually try to take everyone's weapons (and Freedom) away? Do you build impregnable fortresses and call them schools?

No to each of the other choices - you ensure that any murderous child killer is met with a dose of return fire. Armed security is the best defense against armed bad guys. I would go further than just a cop at schools - arm and train a percentage of staff and pay them a bit more for the role they play in deterring the bad guys - just knowledge that there are armed people at schools is enough to stop most of those who use them as shooting galleries.

[Behind the Blue Wall]

I think we all would probably agree that staff should be allowed to be armed at school, and moreover, there should be a requirement that there be a weapon kept on the premises at all times, and at least one person on the staff trained and authorized to make use of it in an emergency.

[FES0844]

Excellent!

[RetiredArmy]

Sorry. I don’t use that word. It might be a sign of being something big to some. To me, it only proves one has a foul mouth.