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1 posted on 12/21/2012 9:40:11 AM PST by pabianice
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28 posted on 12/21/2012 11:21:10 AM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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So let me get this straight, he says he believes the 2nd Amendment protects the individual the right to keep and bear arms but that because so many of the criminals on the streets (who the left put on the streets) are continuing to break the law and steal legally owned firearms, the answer is to ban the firearms.

So it’s better to keep violent criminals on the streets than to keep them in jail?

So if we take away the firearms from the law-abiding citizens, that will keep these criminals that the left turns loose upon the citizenry will simply stop their violent crimes?

The stupidity of these liberals just makes the head spin trying to figure out where to begin proving their stupidity.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 11:25:15 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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Whether by Law, executive order or UN treaty, they are going to disarm us. :)


30 posted on 12/21/2012 11:27:15 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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32 posted on 12/21/2012 11:29:50 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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If there is any truth to this, if Obama’s intention is to spark a civil war, I know of no better way.


34 posted on 12/21/2012 11:31:31 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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Thanks. Good informational post. If we read and consider all of the content (or lack of) and really think about it, that response to anti-Second-Amendment petitions is making the radical anti-Second-Amendment lefties really mad. There’s nothing in it that agrees with what they want.

Even most working class Democrats agree with at least some freedoms and that firearms are very much in style. The “upscale” (flush with cash flow from government debt), anti-Second-Amendment left, along with only a small portion of Republicans (also debt-supported), are certainly overwhelmed by the vast majority of the pro-Second-Amendment, voting population.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 11:36:41 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Hey Odumbo, go orally stimulate a goat.


40 posted on 12/21/2012 11:42:11 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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Any gun control measures will stop at the House of Representatives for sure and probably in the Senate. In Calirado, gun control will stop at a large and convincing enough call (and determination) for voting out certain incumbents.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 11:43:24 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Now that it appears that the Mayan calender thing didn’t work out...HELP OBAMA! SAVE US FROM OURSELVES! WE HAVE TOO MUCH FREEDOM! CHAIN US UP AND PROTECT US FROM EACH OTHER!


42 posted on 12/21/2012 11:47:35 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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But you know what, I am also betting that the majority -- the vast majority -- of responsible, law-abiding gun owners would be some of the first to say that we should be able to keep an irresponsible, law-breaking few from buying a weapon of war. I'm willing to bet that they don't think that using a gun and using common sense are incompatible ideas -- that an unbalanced man shouldn't be able to get his hands on a military-style assault rifle so easily; that in this age of technology, we should be able to check someone's criminal records before he or she can check out at a gun show; that if we work harder to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, there would be fewer atrocities like the one in Newtown -- or any of the lesser-known tragedies that visit small towns and big cities all across America every day."

He's being very vague here. The guns used were obtained legally by his mom; then taken illegally by the son. Where along the line is he advocating suspending the 2nd amendment?
43 posted on 12/21/2012 11:49:46 AM PST by yorkiemom
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Questions that I wonder about

Are Americans too lazy and fat to have another civil war?

What exactly would it take for citizens to stand up and say no?

I what point have enough civil rights be removed for the majority of people to notice?

Are Americans too stupid to even understand what is happening?

PERSONALLY I think that Americans are too lazy and too far gone to do anything about this or any other subject. I think a lot of Americans would enjoy socialism.

Some say there could never be another civil war in America. I wonder.

There are some threads on Free Republic that say it can never happen again.


44 posted on 12/21/2012 12:09:11 PM PST by silentknight
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To quote Winston Churchill, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”

Is there really anyone stupid enough to believe it will end with a ban on “assault” weapons?


45 posted on 12/21/2012 12:11:40 PM PST by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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“[Assault weapons’] menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi- automatic assault weapons —anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.” Josh Sugarmann, executive director of New Right Watch, spokesman for the National Coalition to Ban Handguns, “Assault Weapons and Accessories in America,” policy report of New Right Watch and the Education Fund to End Handgun Violence, September 1988

“Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It does not matter if you have to distort facts or even lie.”
-Sarah Brady, Handgun Control, Inc., The National Educator, January, 1994

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them... ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.”-Dianne Feinstein, Senator, CBS-TV’s “60 Minutes,” February 5, 1995

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of the citizen to bear arms is just one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.” - Hubert Humphrey(bitter clinger), 1960

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”- William Pitt, 1783

“Gun bans don’t disarm criminals, gun bans attract them.”- Walter Mondale, U.S. Ambassador to Japan(bitter clinger), April 20, 1994


46 posted on 12/21/2012 12:23:04 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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And so it begins...


47 posted on 12/21/2012 12:31:14 PM PST by GraceG
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Refuse. Resist.


49 posted on 12/21/2012 12:59:38 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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The rats an media need to be reminded that they had the house, the senate and the president from 08 to 10. They could have passed this back then .... Ban, confiscation etc ... Was theirs for the taking.

They played politics to win a second term.... Allegedly per their own descriptive agenda ....the reason these kids were murdered....

They had the capabilities, resources and votes to play this the way they want now ..... Then

Posers....


50 posted on 12/21/2012 1:01:42 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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I’d love to give my opinion, but I’m sure I’ll get a special visit not long afterwards.


52 posted on 12/21/2012 4:03:10 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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Vice President Biden has been asked to work with members of the Administration, Congress, and the general public...

Half the general public anyway.

The other half can go sh1t in their hat.

60 posted on 12/21/2012 11:24:54 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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no.


62 posted on 12/21/2012 11:57:40 PM PST by dadfly
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Its time to go on offense rather than wait for Obama and the DC crowd to push their agenda.

I was glad to hear the inside the beltway NRA called for armed security at every school.

That needs to be our demand aimed at our state legislators and governors, along with local schools.

Put the liberals on the defensive.

Disarmament wasn’t the answer to Nazis in the 1930’s, Communists during the Cold War and terrorists in 2001.

It isn’t the answers to the insane attacks on children in our schools.


64 posted on 12/22/2012 1:24:29 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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