Posted on 12/21/2012 8:34:37 AM PST by chessplayer
THERE was Roger Daltrey, 68, with his open shirt revealing a Palm Beach perma-tan, and abs so snare-tight that they immediately raised suspicion. (“Implants!” charged a few skeptical members of the Twittersphere.)
Last week’s star-studded “12-12-12” concert — a showcase of retirement-age rock icons like the Rolling Stones, the Who and Eric Clapton — not only raised millions to benefit victims of Hurricane Sandy, but as the “the largest collection of old English musicians ever assembled in Madison Square Garden,” as Mick Jagger joked onstage, it also inspired viewer debate about whether is it possible to look cool and rebellious after 50 without looking foolish?
“I will donate $1,000 to #121212Concert if Roger Daltry buttons his shirt,” tweeted Alan Zweibel, 62, a comedy writer.
The quickest route to ridicule, it seems, is for aging rockers to proceed as if nothing has changed.
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That's a curious question.I don't suppose you'd be willing to cite evidence that I think I'm in charge of...well,basically...*anything*.
last great Stones album was Let is Bleed... I don’t care for much after that.
but man oh man, their early singles were extremely cool
Remember, Mick wanted to be a street fighting man but was too much of a fag to do other than to sing for a rock n roll band.
It’s funny which rockers are culturally deemed too old and which ones aren’t. Seems to be entirely tied to the size of the arena they sell out. The Stones fill football stadiums, so they’re too old; 87 year old BB King sells out casinos, nobody complains.
Jethro Tull called it “Living In The Past” and if there was not a buck in it the genre of music that once eschewed the buck...
...oh never-mind.
I managed to see Walsh earlier this year. Good show, casino ballroom, nice and intimate, still kicking butt. He really only tours for fun at this point though, this summer’s tour was like 9 cities, saw people wearing the shirt from last tour and it was less. When he wants to make money he goes out with the Eagles (yet another reason to hate the Eagles, every time they’re out that’s less Joe Walsh), when he wants to have some fun with his people he puts together a 1 month mini-tour. Very low press too, if I didn’t have a friend that’s obsessed with Howard Stern (who apparently has Walsh on all the time) I’d have never heard about the show.
Tull’s still out there kicking it. Sadly the TAAB2 tour skipped AZ or I would have been there. The thing with the “old guys”still out there doing their thing is they tend to be really good at it. 30, 40, 50 years of practice teaches them some things, usually now they’re much more aptly performing much better music than in their supposed hey days.
Good grief, we all once got up twice in the middle of the night for pot or poon but now it is just to pee.
Yeah but not only is Walsh playing Funk 49 better than he was in 1970, the equipment has improved dramatically and is reproducing what he plays better. Yeah there isn’t the freshness of the first time, and yet we still have sex with our spouses and eat our favorite meals, there’s something to be said for the way not first time.
Zak has played live with Pete Townshend including on some GREAT versions of his solo work, “Slit Skirts”.
Video of the original studio version of “Slit Skirts” - one of Pete’s hidden gems...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XQ2KT8oZhw
GREAT live version of “Slit Skirts” w/David Gilmore and David Sanborn among others. Zak may be the drummer - not sure...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paiQWninQoI
You have a point.
Why do you think that? I might agree if you're talking about some fortyish plus rocker singing about how he pines for the girl in school who won't go out with him. But many rock songs aren't like that. Many of Dylan's (most obvious example), Simon's, and other "rockers" songs deal with major issues other than who gets to take out Peggy Sue (incidentally, a song I like quite a bit). And even most rock and roll love songs from the sixties are age indeterminate.
If an old rocker, like Jagger who celebrated being young and all the carnal and other kinds of fun that came with youth, cavorts on stage still pretending to be in his late teens, yes, that is somewhat disturbing. But I still give them that right. Because I always thought Jagger's spastic gyrations looked silly. If I criticize old rockers for doing songs from fifty years previous, should I criticize old bluesmen, from which rock sprang, who sing the same songs they sang when they were a lot younger? Remember: rock and roll is not basically teen music, or only teens would like it. It's rhythmic music with a pop beat. That's all.
I love the Moody Blues as well. And the only thing that counts about music is if you still like it. Most of the music from the sixties (like music from any particular decade) doesn't hold up well, but there's still a lot that does. That opinion is subject to debate. My wife and I share likes of certain musicians, but we do differ on a number of musicians. But I have no intention of trying to stop her from listening to whatever she wants. She doesn't try to inflict her contrary music interests on me, and I don't try to inflict mine on hers. (for instance: I'm a fan of old country music, Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline, Merle Haggard, etc....she hates all country music, old and new).
One more thing...
If there had never been a “Funk 49” and Joe Walsh wrote and recorded it now...
...in today’s music market, would it be as big a hit or even a hit as it was over forty years ago?
I doubt any of the major labels would publish it now. It doesn’t follow the structure they know makes hits, and that’s pretty much all they do anymore.
Criticizing these guys is just stupid. Especially coming from a forum that supposedly espouses free market capitalism.
I watched the Stones PPV concert from last week. If you get a chance, I think you’d enjoy it. It started a little slow, but got very raucous, which is what you want if you’re a Stones fan.
Reading the reviews, many “music people” say that the band sounded better than they ever have in their “modern touring age” which would I guess start around Steel Wheels in 1989.
I thought they sounded great and the two new songs are as good as anything I hear on the radio.
Jagger stole the show from GaGa, John Mayer, Springsteen, Mick Taylor, etc. because at the end of the concert all you’re thinking is that here’s a guy who just burned about 10,000 calories, didn’t miss a queue or a note, played good harmonica, showed he plays as much guitar as Bruce Springsteen, and did it for well over 2 hours. At age 69.
You would think that sort of thing would be applauded here, not ridiculed.
LOL!
yep. Lebowski says “the Eagles suck man!”... and the cab driver pulls him out of his cab is is so incensed.
Look to Europe if you want to hear great rock n roll. some bands here, but way more over there.
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