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How Boehner’s Plan B for the ‘fiscal cliff’ began and fell apart (RINO arrogance, dublicity)
Washington Post ^ | 12/20/12 | Paul Kane, Ed O’Keefe and Lori Montgomery

Posted on 12/21/2012 4:48:52 AM PST by jimbo123

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Boehner was near tears in announcing the failure to his colleagues, Republicans said.

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Boehner hoped he could keep the details quiet long enough for him to get Obama to agree to enough spending cuts to satisfy his caucus — and so that his leadership team could make the case for compromise in person.

But the details did not stay secret for long. Reports leaked out Saturday evening that Boehner had agreed to raise taxes on millionaires. That was followed by a more alarming leak Sunday evening that Boehner was also willing to grant Obama another increase in the federal debt limit. Home in their districts, unsuspecting rank-and-file Republicans were stunned.

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At that point, senior aides to those lawmakers began anxiously reaching out to GOP leadership staff wanting to know what had happened to the Boehner demand that every dollar in a debt ceiling increase would come with an equal cut in spending.

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To: jimbo123

>> many Republicans seemed to think that Plan B would lead to higher taxes without gaining anything in return.

Whaddaya know? The zany troupe of chattering little monkeys are smarter than I thought.

Oh well, I’m sure the flash of brilliance will fade, Boner will twist their little monkey arms and get what he and Barky want, and they can go back to the par-tee.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 5:36:50 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: ArGee

>> Republicans would have been able to shift the blame for the “no deal” to the Democrats.

You’re a naive one, aren’t ya.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 5:38:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: ArGee

Don’t give me your nonsense. Obama and Reid said they wouldn’t pass Plan B. It was a waste of time. It never had a change of becoming law since Obama will not agree to any cuts except for cuts to the military.

The good news is that the next plan put up for vote will be a Rat plan and any House GOP members that vote for it will be PRIMARIED.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 5:43:29 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Clyde5445

I hope some of our FReeps in Ohio who occasionally correspond to this moron start their Conversation off with Rep. Chucklehead as a constant reminder of who this Chucklehead works for....


24 posted on 12/21/2012 5:44:47 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ArGee

The problem is repetition of incremental failure. The path over many many years is tax increase now, spending cuts down the road. That is the President’s course. For those desiring less government, that is incremental failure

It has been stopped.

Politicians tend to react. We are going to find the truth, the reaction point. Does the president fear catastrophe of the cliff more than the wrath of the national takers society of mentally destitute constituents?

He must now react


25 posted on 12/21/2012 5:48:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Nervous Tick
You’re a naive one, aren’t ya.

It's possible. But I haven't heard from you (yet) how this failure strengthens Republicans. I'll be happy with either a naive or realistic version. I could be missing it, but I don't see it.

26 posted on 12/21/2012 5:54:11 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“A real question is: What do Democrats think will be accomplished by raising taxes on the rich?”

That is an excellent question.

All I can surmise is that the democrats are willing to appease the ideologue-in-chief and as usual, put party ahead of the nation.

Perhaps some were secretly hoping for the GOP, as usual, would be the adults, the “bad guys”, and save us all.

Now the democrats have to figure out how to talk obama out of having his way or holding his breath until the economy turns blue, as in suffocated

Me I am trying to figure out how my family will deal with a potential 5-figure tax increase that is predicted for families in my bracket in my very blue state and no that is not in what obama calls the rich


27 posted on 12/21/2012 5:56:05 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: jimbo123
“Really,” he [Kelly} screamed, according to Republicans. “We can’t support our speaker?”

If this is the end of Boehner as 'speaker', then so be it. Negotiating in secret with Obama - BAD idea. Boehner is an old-fashioned, gentlemen's rules, your word is your bond kind of guy ... Obama is a street thug, knife-in-the-back, if his lips are moving he's lying, no honor, no rules sort of guy. Somebody who understands that and can deal with it needs to be speaker.

28 posted on 12/21/2012 6:01:28 AM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: ArGee

Wake up

Bonehead is a lobbyist front man and DC insider .
He hates the the GOP base.
He purged them out.
He cares only about keeping the spending going for the Beltway bandits such as the huge military contractors !
He is traitor and agrees with Obama !
He has funded Obamacare without a fight !
He could pull the plug at any moment !


29 posted on 12/21/2012 6:02:21 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Clyde5445

Would that be the guy in the picture with his back to the camera? The one wearing the Ohio State shirt?


30 posted on 12/21/2012 6:04:28 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: jimbo123

Notice how this Dem party newsletter portrays Bonner as a victim !
This same hate filled rag attacked Gammer and Newt non stop !
Because Bonner is the perfect DC insider stooge and such a utter disaster that the Dems want to keep him there !

Bonner is there perfect useful
Idiot !
He needs to resign !


31 posted on 12/21/2012 6:05:33 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Clyde5445

Sorry, forgot to mention which picture. It’s the one in comment #4.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 6:05:35 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: bert
The problem is repetition of incremental failure.

I agree.

It has been stopped.

I would like to agree with you, but I don't believe it has. Why do you think it has?

He must now react

I could be wrong about this, but I honestly don't think Obama cares how many people are hurt by the coming recession, as long as he can reshape America his way. I think he'll drink champagne on New Years Eve and not think twice about a double-dip recession.

I think the only chance we had was creating a backlash against him by putting the ball in Reid's court and forcing Reid to say, "No." It was a long shot, but now that shot is passed.

And thanks for actually discussing the issue. I appreciate a dialog to help me see what I may be missing rather than the normal name calling.

33 posted on 12/21/2012 6:10:50 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: jimbo123
You people are kidding yourselves if you think ANYTHING presented by the GOP to the Petulant President would EVER be 'approved' unless it was exactly what His Hindass wanted.......period.

Bohner's plan 'B' parade might have seemed more sincere had he not used it as an excuse to act like Obama's mini-me. Maybe he just did it so the rest of the term will go more *smoothly*.

34 posted on 12/21/2012 6:11:45 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of secession)
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To: ArGee
Republicans would have been able to shift the blame for the "no deal" to the Democrats.


The American media will never let the blame fall on the Democrat/progressives.

Boehner has been politically-neutered and is bargaining/begging from a submissive position.

When is enough, enough? I would rather the Republican party go down standing up and fighting, than be so compromised by capitulation that we are in effect only an arm of the Democrat authority.
35 posted on 12/21/2012 6:11:51 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (There are no winners without losers.)
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To: ncalburt

Boner is a victim of his own arrogance and ineptness. He’s done as speaker. It’s amazing that he thought his conservative purge was a good idea. And it will be fun to watch him try to twist arms to get the House GOP to vote for the Obama-Reid plan next week. Grab some popcorn.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 6:12:36 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

The president DEMANDS a tax hike on the wealthy, or he won’t sign any bill.

I say give him a clean bill that simply extends all of the tax cuts and DARE him to veto it.

He can’t (Bohner hasn’t figured that out yet), because that would mean jacked up taxes for his entire base, or at least the part that’s not on welfare. It would also call out the Dem talking point that the Bush tax cuts were for “The Rich”.

He and the other Dems simply CANNOT and WILL NOT permit that to happen.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 6:22:19 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: jimbo123

Boehner was near tears because the conservative GOP would not let him cave. Boo the frick Hoo.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 6:23:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ArGee

“I’m not a fan of Boehner, but that doesn’t mean this deal wasn’t better than the one that’s likely to follow. I understand and agree with the principle that punishing the rich for their success isn’t a good thing. But I also understand the impact on good people if we enter another major recession in 2013.”

This recession talked is Kenisian (or however you spell it) and is being pounded on us by the Dems and the media. We’ll just see what happens if we start seriously cutting our deficits with the revenue increases (particularly from the poor and middle classes that have had a virtual free ride for the past decade) from letting the Bush cuts expire.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 6:27:01 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: John 3_19-21
I would rather the Republican party go down standing up and fighting, than be so compromised by capitulation that we are in effect only an arm of the Democrat authority.

I understand your sentiment and I would be inclined to agree if I did not know good people who are being just as harmed by this economy as bad people.

Burning Rome may have been a good way to get Rome re-built with more aesthetically pleasing buildings, but it sucked for a lot of Romans.

40 posted on 12/21/2012 6:27:32 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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