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British violent crime 4 times that in the US.
The Telegraph ^ | 02 Jul 2009 | Richard Edwards

Posted on 12/20/2012 1:24:36 PM PST by Fido969

... there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.

By comparison, America has an estimated rate of 466 violent crimes per 100,000 population.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; britain; cnn; crime; crimerate; guncontrol; murder; murderrate; piersmorgan; secondamendment; uk; violence
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To: KeyLargo

Why?. Because I mention guns?. I am pro-guns, and pro-2nd. Also very pro-American and pro-Republican. I am a gun owning UK conservative and Eurosceptic.

I am merely responding using the figures regarding UK and US violence.

Keep your guns, get rid of them, I dont care. Its your choice. But I will step in where MY country’s violence is being debated and distorted.


61 posted on 12/21/2012 8:33:09 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: BobL

Bob, 96% of the UK is NOT Muslim. And parts of the UK like Scotland, Wales and NI are even less (0.16% are Muslim in Scotland). And the UK govt is RESTRICTING immigration.

We are not and are not being taken over, conquered, dhimmied etc.


62 posted on 12/21/2012 8:35:20 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

scotsman, can you give us some insight as to what you are seeing in your large cities regarding real violent crime (not going out on a boat), gangs, guns etc. Thanks.


63 posted on 12/21/2012 8:38:09 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: the scotsman

I’m not going to beat up on the Brits.

Remove all the urban areas from the world and the global crime rate will fall to under 10%.


64 posted on 12/21/2012 8:42:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: the scotsman

“We are not and are not being taken over, conquered, dhimmied etc.”

The transitions always start slow - but it’s the trending that matters and how the natives handle it all. The last time I checked, you have Sharia zones in some neighborhoods. That’s not good. And don’t forget the birthrates and immigration rates. Finally, it’s not me saying this will happen, it’s your own Imams saying it...and they usually mean what they say.


65 posted on 12/21/2012 8:46:04 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: the scotsman
I worked in Detroit for many years. I would tell people that the murder rate in Detroit was about 25 times that of Northern Ireland at the peak of the troubles there. People didn't believe me. They saw media stories about killing etc in Northern Ireland and positive developments in Detroit.

However, the murder rate in Detroit was several hundred times higher than most of the other cities in Michigan.

Violent crime in America is limited to certain areas. The vast majority of Americans are honest and law abiding. People who want gun control and other government control ignore the fact that most Americans are not violent.

Chicago has had about 450 children shot so far this year. Chicago has extremely strict gun control probably similar if not stricter than Britain.

No one in government proposes any solutions other than more bureaucracy and more government control of honest law abiding citizens. No one in authority proposes actually cracking down on actual violent criminals.

66 posted on 12/21/2012 9:07:46 AM PST by detective
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To: the scotsman; All
The UK therefore has far more violent offences on their books than the United States, and that completely changes any comparison, in fact it arguably renders it useless, certainly wholesale comparisons. Of course the UK is going to look more violent if it has 2, 3, 4, 6 times the amount of violent offences on the statute books...
If so, then the multitude of homosexuals in Scotland are driving the numbers up, all kinds of numbers. Yea - cancel that vacation to Scotland!

Gay men in Scotland are nearly eight times more likely to have attempted suicide in the past year

67 posted on 12/21/2012 9:10:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Fido969

BTT


68 posted on 12/21/2012 9:12:23 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: the scotsman

FYI

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html


69 posted on 12/21/2012 9:18:14 AM PST by detective
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To: the scotsman

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html


70 posted on 12/21/2012 9:24:04 AM PST by detective
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To: detective

‘The vast majority of Americans are honest and law abiding’

I agree. Please dont think I am saying or think Americans are all violent savages.


71 posted on 12/21/2012 9:31:46 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: detective

I have explained WHY the UK looks on paper to be the most violent Western nation.


72 posted on 12/21/2012 9:32:44 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

And if the black, male, teenage gun homicide rate were removed from US statistics, our male, teenage gun homicide rate would be about the same as Switzerland’s.

The REAL tragedy is that a lot of those homicides are committed by blacks against their neighbors.


73 posted on 12/21/2012 9:52:31 AM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: detective

LOL, I’m sorry, I stopped taking your links seriously when I read that South Africa has a lower violent crime rate than Britain.


74 posted on 12/21/2012 9:54:08 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: the scotsman
All of which is pretty but far from the truth. If you compare Americans of substantially English origin against English of substantially English origin, the Americans are less violent ~ no matter how you categorize it, or how many crimes are on the books.

We can do that ethnicity by ethnicity, right on down through Ibo in Nigeria, and Chinese from Shanghai, or from Canton, or Overseas Chinese.

Then there are the Japanese Americans ~ one criminal in nearly a century!

75 posted on 12/21/2012 10:29:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: detective
Seriously, virtually ALL of the violent crime in America is commited by Democrats, and against Democrats.

The Democrat party, though, claims that only by disarming the Republicans will they be safe.

76 posted on 12/21/2012 10:34:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
“I stopped taking your links seriously”

These are articles in British newspapers that cite studies by British “experts” and and quotes from British public figures. I don’t know if the articles are accurate or not. I just wanted to show you what your countrymen are saying.

There are many more articles in British publications that say essentially the same thing.

77 posted on 12/21/2012 10:34:08 AM PST by detective
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To: Neidermeyer
Sold nationwide in Kmart, Radio Shack and Home Depot!

Is there someone who can't find electrical ties

78 posted on 12/21/2012 10:41:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
450 children shot so far this year in Chicago and not a word out of the MSM or the politicians.

20 children shot in Connecticutt and the politicians and MSM won't shut up.

We are subject to the constant repetition of the lie that America is bad, that it is the fault of law abiding people and that all gun owners are violent crazies.

All law abiding citizens are accused of not caring about children or wanting to kill children if they disagree with any proposal for more government control.

79 posted on 12/21/2012 10:43:33 AM PST by detective
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To: Sigurdrifta
Americans of Swiss descent have a lower gun homicide rate than Swiss living in Switzerland.

It's that way all across the board. Americans of any particular ethnicity are less violent than their kin back in the old homeland.

80 posted on 12/21/2012 10:48:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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