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EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap
FoxNews.com ^ | 12-18-2012 | Jana Winter

Posted on 12/18/2012 2:34:55 PM PST by servo1969

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”

A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.

Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.

Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school’s principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; fanapt; gunman; lanza; mentalhealth; mentalillness; newtown; sandy; sandyhook
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To: fso301

Speculation like the posts on this thread, remind me of the MSM, how have we came to this, on FR?


81 posted on 12/18/2012 3:57:26 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: lightman

Really.Sorry to hear that.


82 posted on 12/18/2012 3:57:59 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Alaska Wolf
Yeah, that's problem.

OTOH, if kids aren't straightened out by about the age of 5 yr old, it may be hopeless.

83 posted on 12/18/2012 3:58:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I’m thinking that the mom had shared the passcode with her son.


84 posted on 12/18/2012 4:00:32 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: allmendream
Lame excuses do not absolve one of responsibility.

Beating a dead horse accomplishes nothing, but feel free to enforce you code on all the other freepers that think guns should be available for protection, else they are useless.

If on the other hand you feel like burglars, rapists and other miscreants should be required to give notice that they intend to invade your home.

Stuff it, this is not a time to push your modified gun grabber position.

85 posted on 12/18/2012 4:05:16 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: fso301

Far from not even considering it, I read Richard Feynman and he was something of an expert at it.

If she felt her gun safe was not in a secure location where he could not work at it until he opened it - then she needed to move it to a secure location - or store her firearms elsewhere.

If you have guns (and I do) you have a responsibility to keep them away from someone psychotic enough that you think they need professional help.

Lame excuses do not absolve one of this responsibility.

I don’t see how pointing that out is an insult. It is a fact. Lame excuses never absolve one of ANY responsibility in life.


86 posted on 12/18/2012 4:08:09 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: itsahoot
Speculation like the posts on this thread, remind me of the MSM, how have we came to this, on FR?

Absent hard facts, speculation on FR is fine. The problem is with a few posters whose egos are such that they feel compelled to personally insult anyone not in complete agreement with their speculation.

87 posted on 12/18/2012 4:09:06 PM PST by fso301
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To: Jyotishi

You just touched on something that I’ve always tried to figure out about my brother. I’ve posted on here recently about him so apologies if those reading post have already heard my story..
Anyway, my brother is almost 40..still living at home & myself, other family members know he’s had some type mental illness since his teens. Everyone except my enabling
parents know there’s something wrong with him.
Your post about “saving” people made me think of my brother because he’s involved in a few charities & always bragging about how he’s the only one that cares about people & tries to help the unfortunate. If anyone needs help, it’s him! He also has weird fixation on sick people & funerals.


88 posted on 12/18/2012 4:09:27 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: ilovesarah2012

My daughter might be going up there Thursday.You learn a lot more from the locals then you do in print and media.Two of her online friends lost friends and loved ones.If I found out anything more I will post it.


89 posted on 12/18/2012 4:09:49 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: servo1969

Given the implications. If he was committeed, his life would essentially be over. Ruined beyond repair. zero hope for any kind of future.


90 posted on 12/18/2012 4:10:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

” Ruined beyond repair. zero hope for any kind of future.”

And that is different from now......how?


91 posted on 12/18/2012 4:12:13 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: itsahoot

It is hardly a gun grabber position.

If you are living with a psychotic then the ‘enemy’ is already ‘over the wire’ and you need to make sure they don’t use your own weapons against you.

How did it work for his mother? Shot in the face with her own gun. Wow - it sure was available for protection! Too bad she didn’t lock up her guns where he couldn’t get them. She knew he was psycho, and yet he had access to her weapons.

Not smart.


92 posted on 12/18/2012 4:12:43 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: servo1969

Seems like a decent synopsis of the troubled state of families these days. Broken home, child feels abandoned, whatever is left of the security from having any family at all dissolves. I guess a lot of kids in this situation just carry on and repeat the cycle. This one had other issues and snapped.

Used to be that families stayed together for the sake of the children, for better or worse. This family took the new, normal route and something unexpected happened.

Wonder if society will actually learn anything from this.


93 posted on 12/18/2012 4:15:40 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: AppyPappy

Because in their mind..this world is a living hell.


94 posted on 12/18/2012 4:15:40 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: rainee
As long as he's not harming anyone, why make a big deal of it?

It's not a crime to be eccentric, or weird. Thank your lucky stars he has a loving family who doesn't shove him into "treatments" that turn him into a monster.

95 posted on 12/18/2012 4:16:01 PM PST by GVnana
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To: servo1969

Funny how the story is changing, school officials said Nancy Lanza had nothing to do with school and no one ever heard of her.


96 posted on 12/18/2012 4:17:18 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: SE Mom
“took her younger son to a local firing range just days before the rampage.”

One gun range owner said he didn't know them and the FBI didn't find their names on the sign in sheets going way back.

A little impossible to volunteer at the school and have no one there know her. That sounds like more of a rumor they keep rehashing.

Him being in the basement is nothing. Lots of guys would love a man cave in the basement. With his mental state, windows may have been a distraction he couldn't handle.

Oh, no! He had military posters and played video games!!!! Gee, why didn't his brother go bonkers if that was the cause? Why haven't everyone who has these in their rooms go on shooting sprees? Enough with blaming video games and guns. The guy was mental. Banning guns isn't the solution to mental illness.

97 posted on 12/18/2012 4:17:28 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: rainee

Playing video games in your mom’s basement doesn’t exactly sound like a lake of eternal fire.


98 posted on 12/18/2012 4:17:39 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: lightman

A friend of mine did away with himself after some silly sot at work got it into her head that he was a bit too sad or something. I didn’t get enough of the full story, and didn’t observe it since I was away with my mom for two months before. They had the state take him to the hospital, and he was promptly released, without any adverse diagnosis. But that suggestion and the embarrassment of being hauled away in front of everyone at work was all he needed to go over the edge. He was dead a week later, in my opinion due to the meddling of the busybody.


99 posted on 12/18/2012 4:17:51 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: TheBattman

they talk of mental care reform but do nothing of the destructin of lives.

nobody would hire him afterwards even if it was wrongful.

He was probably jealous of the kids.

there is no hope no where to turn.

Why do people jump off the golden gate bridge on the side facing the city but not the side facing nothing?

If he really was this dangerous, there are involuntary comitment for observation laws.


100 posted on 12/18/2012 4:18:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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