[William Tell]

marstegreg said: I can’t help thinking “is this what we’ve come to?”

Perhaps a better way to put this is,"Is this what we've come BACK to?"

I'd be pretty sure that nobody was expected to be defenseless,except slaves and sub-human minorities, during the first century of our republic's existence. Unilateral disarmament is a recent invention.

[marstegreg]

I’d be pretty sure that nobody was expected to be defenseless,except slaves and sub-human minorities, during the first century of our republic’s existence. Unilateral disarmament is a recent invention.

Point taken but children are a special group. They are completely defenseless no matter what group their parents fall into.