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It sounds good, but the left will probably try to abuse these proposals. It's not hard to conceive.
1 posted on 12/17/2012 12:19:40 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The gov’t should get rid of the mental illness known as Liberalism.


2 posted on 12/17/2012 12:21:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: neverdem

These are great ideas....if they can be applied to the first individual as a public trial: The President of the United States


3 posted on 12/17/2012 12:21:39 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: neverdem

were suppose to get this from someone who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder


4 posted on 12/17/2012 12:22:47 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: neverdem
It sounds good, but the left will probably try to abuse these proposals. It's not hard to conceive.

You're right, because doing what feels good is a lot easier than doing what is good. But these proposals are very valid, especially the one about creating a HIPAA exception in the case of mentally ill adults. Since they aren't capable of making treatment decisions, family members must be included.

5 posted on 12/17/2012 12:23:25 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: neverdem

Is there one thing in this proposal that is constitutionally authorized?

Didn’t think so.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 12:28:29 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: neverdem

Five-Point Action Plan for President Obama to Reduce Violence by the Mentally Ill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Point 1) Remove everyone’s freedom

Point 2) Remove everyone’s freedom

Point 3) Remove everyone’s freedom

Point 4) Remover everyone’s freedom

Point 5) Remove evryone’s freedom

And justify it all using the lowest common denominator od morality society has: give in to those who are evil, violent and insane.

Yeah that’ll work!


7 posted on 12/17/2012 12:31:19 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: neverdem

Obama comes from Illinois, the state that put the mentally ill out on the streets in the 70s and recently attempted to shut down the State Mental Facilities due to budget shortages.


8 posted on 12/17/2012 12:34:01 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: neverdem

What we have is not a mental illness issue, but a sin issue.


10 posted on 12/17/2012 12:35:42 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: neverdem

These sound good....however, I am STILL trying to figure out how that would have stopped the killings. This kid did not get his guns through buying them himself. His Mother had them. I guess parents of mentally ill parents should be banned from gun owning??? Slippery slope.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 12:36:01 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: neverdem

Mental illness is whatever the medical “profession” says it is, and they will go along with whatever the government tells them to say it is. I don’t trust the medical establishment or the government with the diagnosis of mental illness.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 12:39:54 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: neverdem
"the left will probably try to abuse these proposals" ..... You mean, "Your problem is that you are insane, Winston." OBrien, `Nineteen Eightyfour'? Or the Soviets sending political dissidents away on grounds of mental instability? Possibly, but the author is right on target: This is the problem. It always comes out later that these guys were practically wearing signs around their necks: "I'm Bug-nuts Dangerous". See attached Larson cartoon. I'm not making light of this horror, just trying to make the point. The left will dismiss the point because actually addressing the problem disallows them from mau-mauing "gun control".
13 posted on 12/17/2012 12:41:46 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. "A long train of abuses and usurpations.")
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The ACLU won their case and then governor Ronald Reagan had to open the doors to the mental institutions. Can’t hold anyone against their will.

Adam Lanz, the Sandy Hook shooter didn’t have a history until Friday. Yes, he had run-ins at school, and no doubt, his late mother tried to help him in every way she knew how. Yet he shot her point blank FOUR times. Poor lady.

Obama and the anti-gun folks like Senator Feinstein (D-CA) are against “assault” guns, and 10 round clips. Look up “assault weapons” on Wikipedia.


15 posted on 12/17/2012 12:44:20 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: neverdem

What does “on medication” mean when people ascribe SSRIs the blame?

Does that mean they had a prescription?( that’s not the same as they’re taking their meds.)

It’s a chicken and the egg scenario. We’re they mentally ill before or after the drug was prescribed?
Were they taking their medication as prescribed?

I see the ‘rats making a 2-fer based on emotions: further advancing more socialized medicine under the guise of ‘free’ mental healthcare for all AND more restrictions on the 2nd Amendment.

Statists will try to label anyone who believes in a small federal government as “mentally ill”.


19 posted on 12/17/2012 1:03:06 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: neverdem

Excellent ideas all.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 1:04:19 PM PST by carolinablonde
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I don’t believe Lanza was severly mentally ill. I think he was just another a dylan klebold eric harris columbine wannabe just like the virgina tech massacre guy.
that’s what I think. probably tired of living and decided to take a bunch of people with him on the way out.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 1:05:06 PM PST by snowstorm12
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RE :”2. Write exceptions into the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) so parents of mentally ill children can get access to medical records and receive information from their children’s doctors on what is wrong and what the children need. Right now, for reasons of “confidentiality,’ doctors won’t tell parents what is wrong with their kids or what treatment they need, even as they require parents to provide the care. As a result, when a child goes off treatment, the parents’ hands are tied. They have all the responsibility to see the person is cared for, but none of the information or authority to see it happens. We have to change the patient confidentiality laws so parents can help prevent tragedies rather than become a punching bag for the public when something horrific happens.”

I have seen this before with a relative with schizophrenia (a VA out-patient yet) and his mother ended up having to call the police on him, fortunately no guns around the house.

When they go off their meds they become more and more delusional until they think that they are God and Satan and that the world is ending and they are a key part of it. In fact I have seen it with more than one person.

Believe me, you do not want to have to deal with that.

26 posted on 12/17/2012 1:41:21 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: neverdem

Jail all the Democrats in Washington?


27 posted on 12/17/2012 1:43:28 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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I’ve had some experience with friends and extended family regarding #2. You have an adult child, a kid away at college perhaps, showing signs that would concern anyone, and you want to help. But no one will talk to you about them or share information because of HIPAA privacy.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 2:21:40 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: neverdem

What about the suggestion by leftist Harry Bellafonte to remove the GOP conservatives? Give Obama dictatorial power to incarcerate them?


32 posted on 12/17/2012 2:28:57 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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As NYers know, AOT doesn’t go far enough—there are still too many crazy people running through Manhattan with machetes or tossing people onto subway tracks or simply pouncing on people in the streets.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 2:32:20 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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