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MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Talks Gun ‘Confiscation’
Newsbusters ^ | December 16, 2012 | Dan Gainor

Posted on 12/17/2012 12:08:25 PM PST by Cheerio

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To: Monty22002
After the shock wears off this talk will backfire on the democrats bigtime.

Just like I thought the Obama economy would backfire on him, and yet the American Sheeple - who are now the majority - voted him in and gave him a mandate to raise taxes. Next we will be hearing he also had a mandate to outlaw gun ownership, after all he talked about it during his 5 year long campaign.

Here is just one example....
Guns
The debate over gun ownership continues in the 2008 presidential campaign. It's centered on the Second Amendment to the Constitution, protecting a person's right to bear and keep arms.

DEMOCRATS
Barack Obama
Voted against a 2005 law prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers stemming from acts committed by others using their products. Supports instant criminal background checks on people purchasing guns and believes law should apply to gun sales at gun shows. Calls for permanently reinstating assault weapons ban. Voted for 2005 amendment placing restrictions on rifle ammunition that is "designed or marketed" to be armor-piercing. Supports making guns childproof and voted for 2005 child safety lock amendment. Would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which allows the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to share data on history of sales and transfers of firearms used in crimes only with federal agencies for national security purposes, or prosecutors needing it for an ongoing criminal investigation or prosecution. Regarding the Supreme Court case District of Columbia v. Heller, Obama did not sign a friend-of-the-court brief that urged the Supreme Court to overturn the District of Columbia gun ban. At a debate, when asked about case, Obama said he believes "that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right." Voted for 2006 amendment prohibiting confiscation of firearms from private citizens, particularly during times of crisis or emergency. Watch Obama speak about guns

OUT OF THE RACE: Joe Biden | Hillary Clinton | Chris Dodd | John Edwards | Mike Gravel | Dennis Kucinich | Bill Richardson
81 posted on 12/17/2012 2:37:07 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

That is a concern. However the country has a strong libertarian streak on social issues lately out of the past 10 years or so. That can always change though. I hope it goes away on drugs and gay marriage, but not guns. But it’s always hard to predict.


82 posted on 12/17/2012 2:41:35 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: mjp

Thanks for the info.


83 posted on 12/17/2012 2:43:08 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

left the Bushmaster in the trunk of his car

The Bushmaster is not an automatic gun its a semi automatic I can get one today at Gander in Ocala. The media thinks all guns are assult weapons and they all are automatic in their feeble little minds.


84 posted on 12/17/2012 2:45:26 PM PST by bikerman (What ever happens from now is all OBAMA's fault. Obama lied,economy died)
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To: grobdriver

It’s possible there was more than one shooter involved.


85 posted on 12/17/2012 3:14:39 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Marcella

That was one of Rush’s points, that just about everything we were originally told was wrong.


86 posted on 12/17/2012 3:22:25 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: bmwcyle

This shooter was not on SSRIs or SNRIs.

However, under side effects, the anti-psychotic drug he is thought to have been taking lists violent reactions as “frequent”.


87 posted on 12/17/2012 3:31:16 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Rush quoted a story near the end of his show today stating that the Sandy Hook shooter left the Bushmaster in the trunk of his car, and that the guns he used were pistols.

Those were initial reports, corrected by the attending medical examiner Saturday afternoon in saying that .223 rifle rounds caused almost all (maybe even all) of the wounds.

HOWEVER ...

The sequence went like this: Initial reports that handguns (a Glock and a Sig) were used. Then an immediate and massive call by Leftists to ban assault weapons. THEN the news that a .223 caliber rifle (which was consistent with the reports that a Bushmaster had been found ... inside the shooter's car trunk) had really been used.

I got defriended Sunday morning by a Leftist FB friend after I asked whether she had inside information from the various law enforcement agencies on the scene or had ESP ... because otherwise she was calling for an assault weapon ban in complete disregard to the "facts" as they'd been portrayed in the press.

No great loss of course. I got a great deal of amusement out of the situation and she walked away pissed. That's points to me, in my book. :)
88 posted on 12/17/2012 3:35:52 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Cheerio

Tell FATBOY to come get my guns, himself!


89 posted on 12/17/2012 3:43:08 PM PST by Hunterb
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To: Cheerio
BTTT

Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens

Why the Gun is Civilization

A Nation of Cowards


Pacifism: The Ultimate Immorality by Raymond Kraft

Last week, Jack and Jill Pacifisto were walking home through the park after dinner with friends, during which they had spent a few hours discussing the immorality of violence and war and their commitments to send more money to progressive activists over the next year. Suddenly, Tony Thug stepped out of the shadows and pointed a pistol at Jack and said, “Give me your wallet,” and, pointing the gun at Jill, “Your purse.”

“What?” asked Jack, incredulous, “Hey, we don’t want any trouble. We’re pacifists. We aren’t going to hurt you.”

“Not my problem,” said Tony, “Gimme your money.”

So Jack and Jill did, and then Tony said, “And now gimme your watches, rings, jewelry, everything worth anything.”

“Hey,” said Jill, “This is my wedding ring!”

And Tony said, “Not my problem.”

Jack and Jill handed over their wallet, and purse, and all their jewelry and Rolex watches, and then Tony shot them both twice in the chest and picked up the loot and stepped back into the shadows.

As Jill lay dying she whispered, “Jack? Why didn’t you fight back? Why didn’t you have a gun?” Those were her last words.

“I couldn’t,” whispered Jack. “I’m a pacifist.” Those were his last words.

A few days later, Bill Thaxton and his wife were walking home through the park after dinner, when Tony Thug stepped out of the shadows.

“Give me your wallet, your purse,” said Tony, pointing his gun first at Bill, and then at his wife. He did not know that Bill was an old lawman, and had been a Marine sniper when he was young, and was active in the Single Action Shooters Society and had a concealed-carry-permit. Tony assumed that the old man was just an old man with some money and a few credit cards in his wallet walking home from dinner.

“Sorry, friend, I don’t like guns, and I don’t want any trouble,” said Bill.

“Not my problem,” said Tony, “Gimme your wallet, your purse,” he said, waving the gun at Bill’s wife, “Rings, watches, everything.”

“And what if I don’t?” asked Bill.

“I’ll shoot you both. Her first,” said Tony, pointing his gun at Bill’s wife again.

“Well,” said Bill, “Okay, honey, do what he says.”

She tossed down her purse. Bill reached slowly for his left lapel with his right hand and then, like lightning, did a cross-draw with his left and came out blazing with his trusty little 9, nailing Tony three times.

As he lay on the sidewalk dying, Tony Thug was heard to mutter, “Damn, I shoulda stuck with the pacifists . . .”

An acquaintance wrote me last week to tell me proudly how he had been a pacifist since the ‘60s. His letter set me thinking about pacifism, which is the ultimate and vilest form of immorality.

If you are Hitler, or Saddam, or Osama, or Ahmadinejad, your desire to kill those you dislike is at least honest and open. You wear you hate on your sleeve and we know who and what you are. But the Pacifist wears his refusal to resist evil as if it were a badge of honor, and claims it as a sign of his or her absolute moral superiority. The Hitlers and Osamas are at least honest about who they are, the Pacifist is not. Not even to himself.

The German Pastor Martin Niemoller wrote a poem circa 1946 about the quiescence of German intellectuals in the face of the Nazi rise to power that has become famous. Translated, it reads:

When they locked up the social democrats,

I remained silent,

I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists

I did not speak out,

I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews

I did not speak out,

I was not a Jew.

When they came for me

there was no one left to speak out.

The Pacifist says something like this, but, unlike Niemoller, without apology. He says:

When you come for my allies

I will not fight you,

for I am a Pacifist.

When you come for my countrymen

I will not fight you,

for I am a Pacifist.

When you come for my neighbor,

I will not fight you,

for I am a Pacifist.

When you come for my mother,

my father, my brother,

my sister, I will not fight you,

for I am a Pacifist.

When you come for my wife,

my husband, my son,

my daughter, I will not fight you,

for I am a Pacifist.

When you come for me,

I will not fight you,

for I am a Pacifist.

The Pacifist claims that he (or she) is too good to fight against evil, and this is the catastrophic intellectual and moral failure of Pacifism. In the guise of being too good to oppose evil, the Pacifist invokes the ultimate immorality by aiding and abetting and encouraging evil, on the pretext of being too pure, too wise, too sophisticated to fight evil, thereby turning the pretense of goodness and purity into an invocation and license for evil to act without opposition.

The moral stance of the Pacifist is, unwittingly perhaps, homicidal, genocidal, fratricidal, suicidal. The Pacifist says, in effect: “There is nothing good worth fighting for. And there is nothing so evil worth fighting against.”

The Pacifist is willing to give evil free reign, because he or she thinks or feels that fighting against evil is even worse than evil itself . . . an intellectual and moral equivocation of monumentally staggering proportions. In order to be a Pacifist, one must hold that Nazism or Islamism or Communism or any other puritanical totalitarian ideology that seeks to slaughter or oppress all the Jews or all of any other race or tribe is no worse, is not morally inferior, to the existence of Jews and Judaism, or whatever other race or tribe is the whipping boy of the day.

To be a Pacifist, one must hold that acquiescence to a Jihad that seeks to destroy Western Civilization is no worse than Western Civilization, even though the Jihad seeks to extinguish intellectual freedom, religious freedom, political freedom, and ultimately even the freedom to be a Pacifist.

As the English philosopher Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” The Pacifist replies, “I am so good that I will do nothing, I will hurt no one, even if that means that good will be destroyed and evil will win. I am so peaceful that I will not discriminate between the goodness of good and the badness of evil, certainly not with enough conviction to take up arms, literally or figuratively, against the triumph of evil over good, of totalitarianism over freedom, of barbarianism over civilization.”

And so the Pacifist, perhaps unthinkingly, unwittingly, mistakenly, is deeply mired in his intellectual confusion, but surely and unequivocally, the epitome of evil itself, For the Pacifist devoutly believes that by refusing to fight against evil he is affirming that he is good, too good and pure to oppose evil, too good and pure to fight evil, to good and pure to kill evil. But in the end, he is the enabler without whom the triumph of evil would not be possible.




90 posted on 12/17/2012 3:55:48 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Cheerio

This is the truth of what the left really wants and what they are going for: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here,” Feinstein on 60 Minutes in 1995


91 posted on 12/17/2012 4:32:54 PM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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To: cripplecreek

:-)


92 posted on 12/18/2012 7:02:04 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: Cheerio
This from a guy who shot and killed his own dog?

Libs need to be disarmed.

93 posted on 12/18/2012 10:36:09 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Multiculturalism as now made the motto: E Pluribus Pluribus.


94 posted on 12/18/2012 10:42:02 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: steve86
" the ...... drug he is thought to have been taking"

What drug would that be?

95 posted on 12/18/2012 10:45:02 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

as -—> has


96 posted on 12/18/2012 12:50:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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