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God Help Us
The American Spectator ^ | 12.17.12 | Ben Stein

Posted on 12/17/2012 10:02:14 AM PST by Freeport

Sunday

I learned about the massacre at Sandy Hook elementary school while we were setting up at Fox News to tape Cavuto on Business. The news was so horrible that we all felt as if we had lost our legs and could no longer stand. It was such horrible news that it simply turned the world upside down.

It still is that kind of news, and it’s incredibly depressing about the nature of humanity. And my wife and I pray all day for the souls of those dear children and for the peace, if there ever will be peace, of their families… and for the souls of the adults and the peace of those who knew and loved them.

As usual, the smartest comment about the whole subject came from John R. Coyne, Jr. “There is evil in the world. It’s beyond mental illness, beyond gun control. It is evil.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: benstein; guns; massacre
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To: xsmommy

Yes, thank you, but it’s not just my world, it’s everyone’s world.

You did mean no ultimate right or wrong also, didn’t you?


41 posted on 12/18/2012 6:37:52 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ArGee

Thanks, I’m sure it’s a good read, but I’ll just go with the real conclusion.


42 posted on 12/18/2012 6:42:54 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

From whence do you derive your understanding of God? is it self-constructed?


43 posted on 12/18/2012 6:47:22 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Self-evidence, derived from God at creation.

Do you consider self-evidence the same as self-constructed?


44 posted on 12/18/2012 6:52:52 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
Thanks, I’m sure it’s a good read, but I’ll just go with the real conclusion.

Your opinion makes it real. I remember that from before when you decided I was self-deluded and your proof was I disagreed with you.

45 posted on 12/18/2012 6:57:27 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: stuartcr

i consider it intellectual arrogance.


46 posted on 12/18/2012 7:11:21 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: ArGee

???


47 posted on 12/18/2012 7:17:05 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: xsmommy

Self-evidence is intellectual arrogance?


48 posted on 12/18/2012 7:18:33 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

Thinking that your intellectual construct of God is the correct one, derived purely from your own mind, is intellectual arrogance. Your posts smack of it too.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 7:20:57 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

You do realise that I never said it was correct, I merely said it’s what I believe.

To be correct, would mean I have knowledge of the construct of God and I could prove it beyond question, wouldn’t it? I don’t believe anyone has or ever had that knowledge.


50 posted on 12/18/2012 7:34:34 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

So then it is YOUR world that is cushy, and not everyone’s.


51 posted on 12/18/2012 7:38:08 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: stuartcr
You do realise that I never said it was correct, I merely said it’s what I believe.

By definition, if you believe it, then you think it is correct.

52 posted on 12/18/2012 7:40:03 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: xsmommy

How many realities or worlds, do you know of?

Myself,I believe there is only one...but I certainly can’t prove it.


53 posted on 12/18/2012 7:48:21 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

well then there are at least two, because YOUR reality/world bears zero resemblance to mine. Nor have i ever heard anyone else espouse belief in such a reality/world as you describe.


54 posted on 12/18/2012 8:14:55 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: ShadowAce

I don’t agree, I think beliefs on this subject, like theories, are open-ended.


55 posted on 12/18/2012 8:15:42 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
It doesn't matter whether you agree or not.

The definition of belief is that you think it is true.

Your opinion/belief/thought does not affect reality, no matter how much you think it does.

56 posted on 12/18/2012 8:21:16 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: stuartcr

what a slipping, sliding, conditional world you envision. no fixed standards— believe what you want, do what you want. just strikes me as just so... convenient.


57 posted on 12/18/2012 8:27:07 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

I guess God really does make us individually...so many mysteries


58 posted on 12/18/2012 8:33:23 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: ShadowAce

Well, call it something other than a belief then, it really doesn’t matter. Of course it doesn’t affect reality, that’s why it’s not knowledge.


59 posted on 12/18/2012 8:36:59 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: xsmommy

Yes, luckily I don’t want to do anything that gets me in trouble. I’m really quite blessed.


60 posted on 12/18/2012 8:44:30 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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