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To: penelopesire

Absolutely. This is “community based mental health care.” In all fairness, it’s a product of both the right, which didn’t want to pay for mental hospitals, and the left, which, under the Langian psychological models promoted at Teachers’ College, said that only the mad were truly sane.

Ronald Reagan, unfortunately, was one of the leading lights of “deinstitutionalization” in California, and at one point famously suggested that the mentally ill could get jobs as playground monitors.

But this all started with the report of one Geraldo Rivera on Willowbrook, an institution on Staten Island, which in general actually had fairly good care. He focused on restraining cages that were used for people having violent episodes. This was actually a step ahead, because previously they had been put in isolation (the famous padded rooms), but they were now permitted to be in the day room but had to be separated from the rest of the residents because they were a danger to them. This was before anti-psychotic drugs were as well developed as they are now, incidentally.

So he whipped up hysteria about this, and it combined with Lang’s message that capitalism was driving people crazy, and presto...instant leftwing lunacy.

But it was reinforced by the right, so the blame is pretty evenly distributed.

The odd thing is that the mental hospitals, in most cases, remained where they were, fully staffed...and empty. This is because they were usually located in remote rural areas and were the only employment in the town. So nobody from either party ever shut them down entirely, and meanwhile, the mentally ill were rampaging through the country.

The cost of deinstitutionalization has been estimated to be enormous, not only in the lost lives and consequent lost wages and productivity of their victims, but in everything from emergency room costs and policing costs to street cleaning costs.

That’s what needs to be changed.


1,264 posted on 12/14/2012 4:48:46 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Well..they need to revisit the whole thing. These people are roaming our streets killing people. Remember the nutter that tried to eat that poor man in Florida? They will lash out with whatever..even their teeth. Control the nuts..not the guns.


1,271 posted on 12/14/2012 4:58:27 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: livius

Absolutely.

What about private institutions? Haven’t they existed, and wouldn’t republicans be OK with that?

Likewise orphanages. Didn’t they have private versions? Yet all were declared cruel and I guess hence we have this foster system where kids bounce around yet aren’t actually adopted. Wouldn’t it be easier to see many kids at once and decide if you want to adopt one?

Sorry, off on tangent about ALL institutions!


1,275 posted on 12/14/2012 5:09:00 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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