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1 posted on 12/13/2012 8:32:17 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Let it burn.


2 posted on 12/13/2012 8:34:47 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Kaslin
Now what?

We all live in a European-style Social Democracy (presuming it does not evolve into something even worse) for the rest of our natural lives.

I frankly see nothing on the horizon that will turn this thing around before I go to meet my Maker. And I'm only around 50.


4 posted on 12/13/2012 8:38:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Now we get to endure the same destruction and loss of freedoms that any country has undergone when taken over by communists. The only question is.....

will we go silently and blythely to that fate?

I say HELL NO.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 8:44:34 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Kaslin
The far left has won, and its power grab and influence continues unabated. Now what?

We can survive just fine without their money. They can't survive without ours. Starve that beast.
It's way past time to get seriously frugal. You and your family must come first. Let them fend for themselves for a change. Force them to live off the absent fruits of their own absent labor.

6 posted on 12/13/2012 8:44:58 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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E Pluribus, Pluribus.


7 posted on 12/13/2012 8:49:56 AM PST by Paladin2
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Said it before and I'll say it again: We have two options.

1) Encourage/urge/insist/DEMAND that at least one state of the Union DEFY every last federal fiat and mandate that originates in DC...

Or...

Secession.

8 posted on 12/13/2012 8:50:12 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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You have lost or are losing across the board. Period.

secession

11 posted on 12/13/2012 8:55:05 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Liberals didn’t accomplish this on their own, because face it... THEIR ideology is dated and flawed beyond credibility.

No.

They had the complicity of decades of Conservative politicians who said ONE thing to get themselves elected, THEN went to DC and DID something else!


13 posted on 12/13/2012 8:56:26 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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Yeah, that’s right.

It’s what happens when you don’t fight your enemy at all.


15 posted on 12/13/2012 9:03:02 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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America will not burn but will become a communists dictatorship. There is no opposition from anywhere in Washington that would be even slightly effective. America has been destroyed by the MSM, Democrats that are pure communists, Unions thugs (from the beginning of unions they were started by hard core socialists and now are communists shadow government), Hollywood freaks, And the list goes on and on. But the most infuriating is the American themselves.

Hope for a reversal is just that HOPE. The dwindling power of the conservative American in the political scene is evident that if America ever comes back it will because of a civil war. And if the military supports King Obama, all is really lost. Add that the huge portion of GOP are worthless wimps, reality must be faced.

16 posted on 12/13/2012 9:05:31 AM PST by Logical me
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Leftist administration was a given after the primaries.


17 posted on 12/13/2012 9:09:22 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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The Left uses the rule of law and the Constitution only when it serves their purposes. We have to realize that the Constitution is dead, especially with 0-care. There is no rule of law that applies to our political masters, no Constitutional republic and we cannot restore the republic through the political process via incrementalism or other conventional means.
We need to let the system collapse, but also create some type of organized alternative structure to oppose the hard Leftist tyranny that will fill vacuum during the period of anarchy to come. I know one thing, if the collapse occurs, the organized structure will definitely not be the GOP.


18 posted on 12/13/2012 9:09:37 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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Read Oliver North's new book, Heroes Proved. It's a futuristic view of the US under the post modernist Progressives in 2030.
20 posted on 12/13/2012 9:20:34 AM PST by Eva
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I don't think I've ever seen conservatives do down and disillusioned. I have to admit I have the same feelings. I think the best thing to do now is to organize on a local level. Find like minded people. Use barter and private funding and local exchange - resist the “takers” any way that you can. Create self protection networks with your trusted neighbors. Keep everything on the downlow. Work hard and insist on top dollar for your services (after all the population of educated and effective employees is shrinking). Strip the system where ever you can take advantage of every government free-be and program. Consider strategic “separation” so your spouse can pillage government benefits, while you write off income/support on your taxes. Advise your children to get government jobs - the private sector is on the ropes. Learn survival skills and improve your skills. Tune out, turn off, drop out.
21 posted on 12/13/2012 9:24:38 AM PST by oncebitten (Obama: could not get a clue if he were covered in clue musk and standing in a field of horny clues.)
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Good grief, no it doesn’t. We just saw Michigan pass right to work, an Illinois court just ruled some of that state’s restrictions on guns to be unconstitutional, Virginia is in the process of dumping card check, and conservative Republicans picked up seats in state legislatures and governourships across the country.

It’s just at the national level where the GOP can’t get its head out of the sand. And even then, Obama just barely squeaked back in, and that on the back of vote fraud.

This is the time to get busy about defeating the Left. This is NOT the time to chicken little like a bunch of pansies.


23 posted on 12/13/2012 9:38:55 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: Kaslin
" Now what?"


26 posted on 12/13/2012 9:55:34 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Kaslin
As long as one person remains who is willing to defend our Constitution at all costs, the game is still on.

I would guess that at least 40% of this country's inhabitants aren't idiots or else permanent vassals of the State.

It is we who now need to organize, just as the other side has - from the bottom, up. We also could use a leader to help spread a coherent message of liberty and the potential of American Renewal from the top, down.

And: we need to get our children the hell out of the mind-numbing, life force-draining Socialist International Indoctrination Centers that our public schools have become. Home schooling is one answer, but it is clearly not for everyone. Other alternatives to public "education" are clearly required. I've got some ideas along those lines, and I'm working on them.

Political parties are not the answer, either. The GOP has proven itself useless as a means of resisting the increasingly radical assaults on our freedom. Too many of its leaders quite evidently value their careers and elite lifestyles above abstract notions like "liberty" and "limited constitutional government".

No. It's going to be up to us - the citizens who still give a damn about freedom and are willing to fight for it, no matter where that decision leads - and I use these words advisedly: no matter what must be done. People like Bill Ayers, Barack Obama, Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, and John Holdren rule our lives because we have come to depend on people who have no real intention of ever stopping them.

I'll give you all one parting hint: if you want to stop people from stealing your liberty, you first need to stop facilitating their power and control by no longer recognizing their authority. That's correct: we need to start breaking more laws, more frequently. Including - no, especially - the Federal tax code. That's just for starters. Because when the law is set against honorable people, honorable people must become outlaws.

In the meanwhile: join your local Tea Party affiliate. Stop patronizing the poisonous mainstream media and instead find the many alternative information sources (still) available. It will be a long, hard struggle. But the first step is knowing not to give up before the battle is over. The truth is: it hasn't even really been fought yet,

27 posted on 12/13/2012 10:01:00 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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"The Bureaucratic Regulators" The far left controls them

"The Federal Judicial System" The far left controls it.

29 posted on 12/13/2012 10:02:27 AM PST by Starstruck (Washinton is presently building a diving board on the fiscal cliff)
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....if they don't tow the "water down our principles" line ....

Surely, Doug, you meant "TOE the line" .... instead of giving us another example of Net illiteracy?

Don't post like a Balchinian.

33 posted on 12/13/2012 10:08:55 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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"Now what?"

I'm really disapointed in most of these replies.

The Constitution is NOT DEAD. It is we, "the conservatives", that are not reading and following the instructions of the Constitution. The Constitution tells us EXACTLY what to do to preserve and regain our lost liberty. It's found in Article 5.

We must use the power of the states to call a Constitutional Convention.

As little as three amendments or changes to current amendments could return full liberty to ALL of the fifty states.

The left has a HUGE weakness. They simply don't have the numbers to defeat us on a level playing field. This has always been true yet we have failed to exploit it. An Article 5 Convention levels the playing field where the left will be outnumbered three to one.

I encourage all on this thread to do two simple things.

1. Study up on Article 5 of the Constitution. Understand the reason the founders gave the states the option to call a Constitutional Convention.

2. Put up a picture of the red and blue states and precincts from the last election and stare at it frequently.

The answer to "Now what?" will soon be very clear.

34 posted on 12/13/2012 10:10:21 AM PST by precisionshootist
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