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Colorado River seen as depleting regional resource
Yahoo News ^ | December 12, 2012 | KEN RITTER | Associated Press

Posted on 12/12/2012 4:21:46 PM PST by Uncle Chip

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To: Graybeard58
Who had the idea of towing ice bergs to those cities? Congressman Hank (Guam might tip over) Johnson?

IIRC the idea was first floated (sorry) in the 1970's by Georges Mougin

21 posted on 12/12/2012 5:23:27 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: DuncanWaring
Ogallala does not underlie the southwest. The water situation in the southwest is a real problem, and will not go away. I lived in Arizona in the seventies, and water scarcity was a growing problem even then. The Central Arizona Project helped but won't be a permanent solution. I know Salazar is a jerk but he is right to draw attention to the problem.
22 posted on 12/12/2012 5:28:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Uncle Chip
A few things come to mind:

Put a top on the Central Arizona Project;
it evaporates more than its worth.

Put an end to public water fountains
displays in the Phoenix area.

If anyone cares the Colorado River Compact
originally set in stone more million-acre feet per
annum than has ever been measured in the last ninety years


23 posted on 12/12/2012 5:50:04 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Red Badger

Haven’t they already done that???


24 posted on 12/12/2012 6:14:12 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

how ‘bout a big a$$ dam (BAD) on the /Colorado Utah Border?

There - Colorado river solves Colorado’s issue.

Remember, a shovel upstream beats a water right downstream.....


25 posted on 12/12/2012 6:14:57 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: tet68

How would they get those icebergs into Arizona???


26 posted on 12/12/2012 6:20:01 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: redlegplanner
how ‘bout a big a$$ dam (BAD) on the /Colorado Utah Border?

They've had that for 70 years -- it's called the Hoover Dam.

27 posted on 12/12/2012 6:24:34 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

No, isnt Hoover Dam on the north side?......


28 posted on 12/12/2012 6:25:48 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: redlegplanner
how ‘bout a big a$$ dam (BAD) on the /Colorado Utah Border?

There - Colorado river solves Colorado’s issue.

Remember, a shovel upstream beats a water right downstream.....

You would have to first review the
Colorado River Compact(1922) and the
Colorado Constitution ( first in Time,
first in Right in water rights)

29 posted on 12/12/2012 6:34:38 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The world doesn’t have a shortage of water; it’s just that the water is in the wrong places for some people. If water in arid regions gets scarce and/or expensive enough, sooner or later it will be cost feasible to build huge pipelines from Canada — not from oil fields, but from polar ice which is melting due to global warming — or, so we are told, and told, and told again.


30 posted on 12/12/2012 6:35:48 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: Red Badger

Ohhhh — you mean on the part of the river that flows north — never thought of that.


31 posted on 12/12/2012 6:35:59 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Yep — the Romans did it. And LA would still be be a desert without the water from Mammoth Lakes.


32 posted on 12/12/2012 6:40:18 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Interesting. In 1977 I took a geography class at the University of Tennessee that focused on the Colorado River basin. We studied the supply, the allocation, and especially the effects of the decisions that had been made. Basically, the problem is that the water measurements made for the initial allocation to states was made during an extremely wet period, so more water was allocated than was available. Obviously, if the upstream state takes its allocation, the downstream state has to deal with the shortage. According to the class, the Hoover Dam actually reduces the water available because (a) more evaporates, and (b) a lot of water soaks into the limestone canyons. Another project resulted in the Salton Sea when a diversion dam failed and water spilled outside of the river channel. Basically, every decision to make the situation better seemed to make it worse. I remember the instructor commenting late in the term that the solution was probably to do nothing and let nature and economics take its course. When water starts costing $1500 per month, people will quit moving there. Meanwhile, the calamity existed about 35 years ago, so there shouldn’t be any surprises that it is still happening. The course was one of the best electives I ever took.


33 posted on 12/12/2012 6:41:15 PM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: Uncle Chip
how ‘bout a big a$$ dam (BAD) on the /Colorado Utah Border?

"They've had that for 70 years -- it's called the Hoover Dam."

That particular dam, I believe, is called the Glen Canyon Dam.

34 posted on 12/12/2012 6:43:23 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Uncle Chip
how ‘bout a big a$$ dam (BAD) on the /Colorado Utah Border?

"They've had that for 70 years -- it's called the Hoover Dam."

That particular dam, I believe, is called the Glen Canyon Dam.

35 posted on 12/12/2012 6:43:23 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

It is crazy to see all the water in all those canals flowing through a 110 degree Arizona desert just so those fairways in Scottsdale can stay green.

Used to be that doctors would advise their respiratory care patients to move to Phoenix for the dry heat. Now with all the canals and pools and watering holes in that city the humidity approaches that of St Louis.


36 posted on 12/12/2012 6:45:15 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
You are right.

I was appalled at the direction Arizona
has taken in the last fifty years.


37 posted on 12/12/2012 7:00:19 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Well,

The vast majority of those green golf courses are irrigated with gray water. There’s not many places on earth that use, re-use, and re-use again a drop of water as effectively as Phoenix does. Please don’t buy into the BS. Salazar will make people who happen to live in Scottsdale or Phoenix right on par with those nasty smokers and gun owners,while you cheer him on without knowing his true intentions. Did you notice that the enemy he’s describing happen to be southwest RED states. I say pipe the water in from anywhere you can find it, we’re Americans and the land doesn’t rule us, we rule the land. Just let me live in freedom.


38 posted on 12/12/2012 7:07:41 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Greenpees

That’s a nice philosophy but history of the West tells us that water rules the land not vice versa. And the problem is that all the Red States out West and in the Midwest are getting short of water.


39 posted on 12/12/2012 7:22:09 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: okie01
Glen Cyn Dam holds Lake Powel, which is on the Utah/Arizona border. The BAD proposed here would not let water leave the state of Colorado, which is upstream from Lake Powel.
40 posted on 12/12/2012 7:28:40 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I hope we're ready to get a real candidate next time. C'mon GOP! <BCC><)
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