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(Illinois)Federal appeals court tosses state ban on carrying concealed weapons
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/11/2012 | dave Mckinney

Posted on 12/11/2012 10:40:49 AM PST by Lockbar

In a huge win for gun-rights groups, a federal appeals court in Chicago on Tuesday tossed the state’s ban on carrying concealed weapons and gave Illinois’ Legislature 180 days to craft a law legalizing concealed carry.

“The debate is over. We won. And there will be a statewide carry law in 2013,” said Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; guns; obotslose
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To: Lockbar

21 posted on 12/11/2012 11:28:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Lockbar

Amazing.


22 posted on 12/11/2012 11:30:01 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Jeff Winston

Hope it works out for IL gun owners, really. I dont think though the lefties are just going to roll over w/o a big fight. Really may issue depends on the obstacles put in the way.


23 posted on 12/11/2012 11:47:16 AM PST by 556x45
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To: 556x45; All
Well, yes, however, if you can afford a lawyer just about any law can get judicial review. That doesn’t mean you’ll prevail and in this case I think it would be very difficult.

In this instance, you would not be starting from scratch. The court has already issued an order, with a time limit. The law has to meet the court ordered criteria, and the court gets to decide if they have met it.

It is not as if someone has to bring a new lawsuit. It is more like the Kansas case, where the court ordered a school district to do certain things, and then judged whether they accomplished those things or not.

That is how it appears to me, with the limited information about the case that I have read.

24 posted on 12/11/2012 11:48:47 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thanks for posting that map I love to see it changing for the better.

Not perfect yet, but getting better year by year.

25 posted on 12/11/2012 11:57:50 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Lockbar

Jason Whitlock must be crying in his diapers.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 11:58:24 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: marktwain

OK, fair enough. Would be interesting to see what the court ordered and what the pols come up w/. Even so look at Heller vs DC. Although not identical its similar in nature. I think it was some time before DC kinda sorta did something toward what the court ordered. It seems to me the pols could keep this tied up in court for some time. That is, the pols have little respect for court orders unless it fits their agenda.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 12:05:47 PM PST by 556x45
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To: TYVets

I hope to see it completely green some day.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 12:19:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: 556x45; All
DC did what the court ordered immediately, which was to give Dick Heller a permit to have and carry the pistol in his home.

Then they made their new law tremendously burdensome, and it is being appealed the old way, because the court did not order them to pass a new law, they just ruled the old law unconstitutional.

This ruling is better, because it tells the legislature to pass a new law that meets the court's requirements. I do not think the legislature will be the problem here. They have already been willing to pass a much improved law. Even the Chairman of the Chicago Black Caucus is on board. The problem will be Governor Quinn, who is a fanatical anti-freedom activist.

29 posted on 12/11/2012 12:20:24 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Lockbar

Don’t get excited. It’s a cinch that the Demoscum running IL will craft a new bill prohibiting people from concealed carry anyway.


30 posted on 12/11/2012 12:33:05 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Lockbar

Strange... not a word on DumpsterUnderground.com... 8*)


31 posted on 12/11/2012 12:39:04 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: arderkrag

“...With every little victory, I smile....”

This is more than a “little” victory, my friend.

This is a giant middle finger from a judge on behalf of every gunny in the country to the former senator from Illinois...

So don’t just smile now...big ol’ cheesy grin is more apt. Show ‘em dem dare pearly whites!!!!


32 posted on 12/11/2012 12:45:47 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Jason Whitlock must be crying in his diapers.


LOL! Lookin' like a FOOL with his pants on the ground!

33 posted on 12/11/2012 1:19:59 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Lockbar
In a huge win for law abiding citizens, a federal appeals court in Chicago on Tuesday tossed the state’s ban on carrying concealed weapons and gave Illinois’ Legislature 180 days to craft a law legalizing concealed carry.

Corrected.

34 posted on 12/11/2012 1:36:43 PM PST by TheDon (In 2012, American voters doubled down on the first affirmative action president.)
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To: 556x45

Oh, I’m sure they’ll fight as hard as they can.

But unless they can get it overturned (and I don’t think they can) it’s kind of hard to fight against a court ruling that says the state MUST put in place a carry law.


35 posted on 12/11/2012 2:52:07 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: marktwain

Well hotdog! I hope it goes well, very well!! Are you from IL by any chance?


36 posted on 12/11/2012 3:15:06 PM PST by 556x45
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To: 556x45

No, Arizona. I am appalled by the corruption in Illinois, but every state has a large number of politicians that simply ignore their oath to defend and protect the Constitution.


37 posted on 12/11/2012 3:51:22 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Lockbar

If a flying saucer landed on your front lawn (near Chicago), it would contain an illegal alien or one with an unlimited visitor visa, looking like Rahm Emanuel, wearing a Pink Tutu, and asking for directions to the welfare office.


38 posted on 12/11/2012 6:43:43 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Lockbar
This really is great news, best here in IL in yeeeeeears. Like maybe since the Bulls last won the NBA Championship.

But the IL Legislature (aka Madigan's Lackeys) have 180 days, six months, to screw with us. And you can bet the rent they WILL try.

'Hopefully' enough down-state Blue Dog gun lovin' Dems (yes they exist) will tell the Chicago and Crook County Pols (Madigan's Puppets) to go take a flying ..... leap. And anything that does pass and becomes law mirrors the recent Concealed Carry Bill that (cough) 'almost passed'(1).

And in NO WAY comes close to the bullshiite that 'prisoners in Chi' have to go through just to have a legal gun in their house. It's one big Catch-22, they pretty much can't comply with the law. As in 'impossible'.

(1) IIRC; Basically if you have a valid IL FOID CARD you pretty much already qualify. Just pass a Certified Training program and you're good to go.

39 posted on 12/12/2012 6:55:17 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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