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George Zimmerman Hearing 9:00 AM EST -- LIVE
UC | December 11, 2012 | UC

Posted on 12/11/2012 5:58:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Live streaming coverage should be at these links:

http://cfnews13.com/

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/

http://www.wesh.com/

Agenda for the hearing:

http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/documents/1212/notice_of_hearing_121112.pdf


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Uncle Chip
This whole thing is not about guilt or innocence, we have the opinions of several of America's foremost legal experts that the prosecution has no case at all. It's not even about the 2'nd amendment or gun rights.

This is about:

It's also about the basic idea of equality in our society and the question of whether or not we now have special/protected groups of people who are legally untouchable to the extent that the rest of us can't even defend ourselves when one of them goes crazy on drugs and tries to kill us.
21 posted on 12/11/2012 7:18:12 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Uncle Chip
March 19 for sure, since she was not a minor when Crump interviewed her.

I suspect she was 18 on February 25th, too.

22 posted on 12/11/2012 7:28:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt; MestaMachine

Did I just hear the Judge deny the Motion for modification of release???

Unbelievable


23 posted on 12/11/2012 7:30:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Motion to be able to leave the county and not have GPS monitor denied.


24 posted on 12/11/2012 7:30:40 AM PST by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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To: varmintman
This case is all about the power of the state. Whether or not it has evidence to support a case is irrelevant, is the point.

If you defend yourself with deadly force, in Florida, you risk being hauled through all the legal process that is at the prosecutor's disposal.

25 posted on 12/11/2012 7:30:53 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

There wa just an important clarification of a previous order by a previous judge....read aloud...It says Zimmerman’s attorney can have no contact with any family members of Tray Martin. But it apparently says nothing about contact with witnesses.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 7:32:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip
Courts are fundamentally extensions of the prosecutor's office. This judge, and I do think she's good, is just handling the issue in front of her, and is making no effort to educate herself about the history or the evidence.

That changes when she is hears a case for dismissal, and not before.

27 posted on 12/11/2012 7:33:17 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: John Galt's cousin

The election is over so no need for rioting now.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 7:33:17 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Uncle Chip

Yes, unfortunately for GZ, motions denied.

When this is all done, I hope the meter has been running on liability for all of the players in this travesty.


29 posted on 12/11/2012 7:33:35 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: A. Patriot
I don't think they really care about the GPS monitor. He'd be followed regardless.

It was the other issue that he wanted clarified...about contact with witnesses.

This attorney is a regular skinny Perry Mason.

30 posted on 12/11/2012 7:35:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Cboldt
She is definitely doing a good job trying to ignore the evidence in this case thus far.

Did she have her eyes closed when O'Mara showed her the picture of GZ's head injuries???

31 posted on 12/11/2012 7:42:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: All

folks remember most judges come from the prosecutor’s office. More than a few criminal judges are refered to as the “backup prosecutors”.

She is just trying to keep herself from being reversed on appeal. She is just “trying not to be seen”. since she keeps her job via election.

BTW, for all intents and purposes judges are lifetime appointments/elections since no lawyer in their carreer mind goes up against a sitting judge, or even has a chance of winning.


32 posted on 12/11/2012 7:55:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

No Seminole County jury will convict George Zimmerman with Bernie de la Ronda as a prosecutor. He is an idiot

BDLR just telegraphed the whole prosecution case to GZ defense....the prosecution has no case

This judge will be overturned if she denies Immunity on a Stand Your Ground hearing. I would think she would not want to embarass herself getting slapped down on appeal.

I am glad to see that O’Mara is much more lively..and giving a very good interview post-hearing


33 posted on 12/11/2012 7:57:13 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Uncle Chip

Justice delayed is justice denied.

The long arm of the Department of Justice is at work here.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 8:10:51 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: SeminoleCounty

One thing that is clear from this case is that the only people who can lie in court and get away with it are attorneys — particularly as in this case prosecuting attorneys.


35 posted on 12/11/2012 8:18:06 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MestaMachine
It's called "Scapegoating",

"Justice" is what the lawyers in black robes administer to convicted criminals

36 posted on 12/11/2012 8:40:56 AM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: All

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/12/11/defense_to_present_m.html

Minute-by-minute updates from the courtroom

10:55 a.m.

O’Mara says he wont question judge’s decision but he thinks George Zimmerman deserves freedom.

10:53 a.m.

“I’m frustrated he lives in hiding and is absolutely broke.”- Defense attorney O’Mara.

10:46 a.m.

Robert Zimmerman speaking to media says he talks about family with his brother, not the case.

10:27 a.m.

Judge looking at future hearing dates. Jan. 8 & Feb. 5 to sort through future possible motions. Trial set to start in June. Hearing over.

10:21 a.m.

Judge denies motion. George Zimmerman will keep GPS and stay in Seminole County.

10:20 a.m.

O’Mara says George Zimmerman lost job, kicked out of school and his wife told she couldn’t come back to nursing school.

10:16 a.m.

Defense O’Mara holds up picture of George Zimmerman with a bloody nose. Says he is the victim.

10:14 a.m.

Defense: “There are threats out there and if you want them we can present them.”

10:11 a.m.

State argues, “Isn’t the defendant safer if law enforcement knows where he is?

10:07 a.m.

State: “Does he want to go to Miami and sign autographs... Why are we re-hashing this?”

10:06 a.m.

State says if George Zimmerman is worried about his safety, why did he do an interview on National TV?

10:05 a.m.

State says you can’t have it both ways - publicity and secrecy. “Does he want to sign autographs?”- Prosecutor

10:03 a.m.

State wants George Zimmerman restricted to Seminole County not “wandering where he wants.”

10:01 a.m.

State says court cannot forget George Zimmerman lied to the previous judge and had a second passport in a safety deposit box.

9:58 a.m.

George Zimmerman attorney says it’s necessary to have George out of Seminole County to meet with experts and build case.

9:57 a.m.

George Zimmerman attorney says he’s shown he deserves to be free and he is still in hiding because this is a high profile case.

9:56 a.m.

Probation officer says, “George Zimmerman has been in total compliance.”

9:55 a.m.

Probation officer testifying now. Will George Zimmerman be allowed out of the county? No GPS? “No complaints, no problems.”

9:54 a.m.

Now onto modifications of George Zimmerman release. Defense wants no GPS.

9:53 a.m.

State says “they’ll take the high road” and give defense list.

9:52 a.m.

State says it isn’t required to disclose witnesses who ID’d voice in 911 calls. Judge agrees.

9:51 a.m.

Judge back. Attorneys say they have not worked issue out on their own.

9:47 a.m.

Recess ends.

9:45 a.m.

George Zimmerman sitting in courtroom while attorneys talk. He has been looking down. Recess continues.

9:26 a.m.

10 minute recess so defense and state can talk motion over. Judge says hopefully they can work this out between themselves.

9:23 a.m.

Defense says George Zimmerman said, “that doesn’t even sound like me” never claimed it “wasn’t his voice.”

9:21 a.m.

State says George Zimmerman didn’t recognize his own voice on tape.

9:16 a.m.

George Zimmerman attorney wants to know who has heard the 911 calls and wants to know the people who say it’s George Zimmerman heard yelling.

9:12 a.m.

Now onto motion about voice id tests on 911 call “cries for help.”

9:10 a.m.

Judge denies request to force evidence release because defense hasn’t tried to get it on their own.

9:08 a.m.

Discovery FDLE & FBI: defense says there is evidence they haven’t received. They want judge to demand “every drawer needs to be opened.”

9:06 a.m.

Trayvon Martin attorney recorded his phone interview with girlfriend about night Trayvon Martin died. She claims to have been on phone with him.

9:03 a.m.

Trayvon Martin family not in court. This may be one of the first or the very first time they haven’t been there.

9:01 a.m.

Judge Nelson flies through these motions. State must get recording to defense by Friday. Actual device is at FDLE if defense wants to see it.

8:59 a.m.

Defense wants to take another deposition. This involves a Sanford investigator. Judge says OK but stick to what is in the motion.

8:57 a.m.

The judge in the case has walked into the courtroom. All attorneys are there.

8:48 a.m.

Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, arrives at the Seminole County Courthouse.

8:42 a.m.

Zimmerman’s brother, Robert, is in the courtroom. He has been very vocal about George’s innocence and trying to clear his family’s name.

8:30 a.m.

George Zimmerman has arrived at the Seminole County Courthouse. Hearing starts at 9 a.m.


37 posted on 12/11/2012 8:55:48 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks! Great reporting job!


38 posted on 12/11/2012 9:32:31 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Sacajaweau

I think he would be safer if he could go into hiding out of state.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 9:34:59 AM PST by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Zimmerman's best hope,regarding the *state* charges,is that a judge who isn't worried about reelection (perhaps nearing retirement) dismisses all the charges...with prejudice.His second best hope is a couple of hung juries and,after the second one,the presiding judge declaring that the state won't be allowed to try him again.

But even in these best case scenarios,he'll still have to worry about Attorney Corporal Holder.

40 posted on 12/11/2012 9:44:36 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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