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1 posted on 12/07/2012 7:40:40 PM PST by Jyotishi
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law enforcement agencies will normally need a warrant to get the data

It's comforting to know that. [/s]

2 posted on 12/07/2012 7:49:51 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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Congress may be able to mandate the car companies install them. However, they can’t mandate that we not remove them.


3 posted on 12/07/2012 7:51:32 PM PST by Boogieman
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Tyranny marches on.


4 posted on 12/07/2012 7:51:59 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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I don’t like the EDR’s. How long before if not already, they record how fast you have been driving even without an accident. Such as getting ot the point where you get pulled over, a cop plugs into your EDR and downloads the data and then traffic tickets are written based on the data.


5 posted on 12/07/2012 7:55:21 PM PST by CORedneck
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92% of all new vehicles have them already.


12 posted on 12/07/2012 8:12:03 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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Guess I better stock pile cars with out BB’s like I do ammunition.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 8:13:01 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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Since I don’t drive cars newer than 10 yrs old, it will be 2022 or later before the benign and beneficent merciful government begins to track my movements.

And then they’d better put it in a pretty durable place, so that I don’t accidentally scrape it off on a handheld electric grinder spinning spontaneously in the middle of the road.


14 posted on 12/07/2012 8:14:53 PM PST by lurk
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wont be long theyll require these up everybodys butt, that way they can adminiter Obamacare by sattelite


20 posted on 12/07/2012 8:21:36 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get $7....LOL !)
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They ain't coming to my next car...
24 posted on 12/07/2012 8:27:32 PM PST by montanajoe
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What could possibly go wrong?


27 posted on 12/07/2012 8:36:46 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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Thanks for this thread. I now know that my 11 year old truck has one but my 21 year old car does not.


28 posted on 12/07/2012 8:41:46 PM PST by Roccus
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what cars DON'T have them??? every car i've owned since 1994 has had one...
30 posted on 12/07/2012 8:50:29 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Build your own car.

Get a serviceable older vehicle, strip out the gratuitous electronics and isolate the modern ignition and fuel injection. Rewire the body electrics back to analog.

You don’t need a computer to make your brake-lights work.

You could take a modern pickup chassis and build almost anything up on it including an antique pickup or car.

I saw a nice 36 Ford truck cab and fenders begging to be transplanted on a modern F250 chassis. Somebody around here put a 39 Ford sedan delivery on an S10 frame...with a small block.

That way you can get the benefit of modern brakes, suspension and power train with the cool look of your favorite ride.

Then there’s kit cars.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 8:59:19 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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So, according to the article, the car owner “owns” the data. If it’s my data to own, it’s also my data to destroy at my discretion, no?


33 posted on 12/07/2012 9:19:25 PM PST by Jim Hill
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I remember hearing that your Social Security Number would never be used for identification. We all see where that went.


35 posted on 12/07/2012 9:23:05 PM PST by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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Don’t buy a new car. I have a 10 yo truck and I’m keeping it until our Republic returns.


37 posted on 12/07/2012 9:32:26 PM PST by Dapper 26
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I read the article, but can’t understand - why would any congressman vote for this? What’s in it for them?


41 posted on 12/07/2012 10:28:45 PM PST by PGR88
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It would be insanity if these black boxes would record your speed and the GPS coordinates for that speed. Then the traffic cop plugs in and for every location you went over the speed limit, you get fined. Perhaps if there were enough incidences of speed violations, the cop could summarily execute you on the spot and confiscate your car.


45 posted on 12/08/2012 12:58:55 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ted-talk-on-u-penn-swarming-quads-now-live
sky net is on its way


48 posted on 12/08/2012 4:07:50 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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Coming soon -

Buy anti-black box malware on a DVD for $9.95 on eBay. It wipes the EDR recorder clean, or replaces it with harmless data, while maintaining all other vehicle systems. Some hacker is going to be a zillionaire.

Or there will be sites on the Dark Web where you download code to override the EDR and upload harmless data into the black box.

University researchers have already built systems to hack and remotely take over your car. They can control braking, steering, heating, the radio, the stereo and lock or unlock your doors. Busting a black box is certainly coming soon.


60 posted on 12/08/2012 6:50:37 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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