Posted on 12/07/2012 7:40:36 PM PST by Jyotishi
It's looking very likely that a bill in Congress that will make mandatory the use of "black boxes"— more formally, Event Data Recorders (EDR) — will become law soon. These are little computers clad in rugged casings that record data from your car's various sensors and computers to use for accident investigation and, very likely, other uses.
There's lots of privacy concerns around this new bill, and lots of questions as to exactly what that little boxy black snitch is snooping on. Plus, what about the voluntary black boxes some insurance carriers are offering? Let's see what we can clear up.
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It's comforting to know that. [/s]
Congress may be able to mandate the car companies install them. However, they can’t mandate that we not remove them.
Tyranny marches on.
I don’t like the EDR’s. How long before if not already, they record how fast you have been driving even without an accident. Such as getting ot the point where you get pulled over, a cop plugs into your EDR and downloads the data and then traffic tickets are written based on the data.
True, but be prepared to find that they've been made an integral part of your vehicle's electrical and computer systems. Remove them, and you may end up disabling the car.
“However, they can’t mandate that we not remove them.”
I will bet you the price of the car that the vehicle is disabled and won’t start if the black box is tampered with or removed. Sort of like the anti-lock brakes that when broken or unplugged, disable the vehicle from running at all.
All roads will have tolls, tracking, etc. Where use of EDR will 'allow' ya to drive on said roads.
Chief Justice will allow them to “tax” you if you do under the all-powerful taxing clause. /sarc
Chief Justice Roberts, I mean.
I see a new business opportunity - replacement black boxes. Probably expensive and difficult but... Or maybe something that you plug the wiring harness into, then plug into the black box, and it feeds it bogus or scaled data... But that would probably mess up engine management... Best bet, aftermarket simplified, standardized black boxes...
92% of all new vehicles have them already.
Guess I better stock pile cars with out BB’s like I do ammunition.
Since I don’t drive cars newer than 10 yrs old, it will be 2022 or later before the benign and beneficent merciful government begins to track my movements.
And then they’d better put it in a pretty durable place, so that I don’t accidentally scrape it off on a handheld electric grinder spinning spontaneously in the middle of the road.
I’d bet if you remove it the car won’t work. Computer systems are tied together. You remove something from the bus (aka network) and it all shuts down.
Oh, yeah?
Then, don’t buy em. Go used or foreign and get them shipped here. Screw the feds.
I’d like to think that they would overwrite data more than, say, twelve hours old. With that in mind, I wouldn’t object. Especially if it mught lower my insurance premiums. Though I can also readily see that it would individually depend on what kind of driver one really is.
According to the Bosch link, they are all "last 30 seconds" recorders of various data pertaining to crashes. The recorders do seem to pick up "child safety" data, which in some states might trigger snooping into our failure to follow the state's incomprehensible formulae defining which new and expensive car seat your children must be sitting in until they are married.
In my copy of the Constitution 1.0, I can't find anything granting Congress the power to require such a thing for a cockroach, never mind an American citizen. Is a majority of the House really on board with this lunacy?
wont be long theyll require these up everybodys butt, that way they can adminiter Obamacare by sattelite
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