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To: Yosemitest
Questions:

1. Can someone put this in layman's terms?

2. What is holding the market up if those who have IRAs know the government is about to rob them?

3. Is the government going to force the sale of rental property through excessive taxation of same?

5 posted on 12/06/2012 4:53:17 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin


Good question.
I think your answer is "God sends them a POWERFUL DELUSION".

Your guess is as good as mine./ul
9 posted on 12/06/2012 5:11:28 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and the 45 declared goals of the Communist plans for America,

and you’ll have the democrat agenda.

Yes, they intend to make private property ownership and inheritance a thing of the past.

The State will be IT. 1984, to them, was an instruction manual.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 5:20:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
What is holding the market up if those who have IRAs know the government is about to rob them?

Mostly, the holders are trapped.

With an IRA, you have more control, but with an employer-sponsored 401(k), it's likely you can't take the money out, no matter what.

I've looked into it at our company, which admittedly has a stricter plan than most. As long as we're employed, there's no way to pull the funds except under hardship, and the hardship exemptions basically call for you to be disapproved for all other sources of funding (high interest credit cards, signature loans, etc.)

But even if you can take the money out, there's a 10% penalty, and you pay taxes as if it were current year income, which means the whole lump sum is charged at your highest marginal rate (and likely a bunch of it will be in an even higher tax bracket).

So, between the taxes and penalties, you may end up loosing any gains you made by putting that money away.

Even with all that, I'd still pull the funds out of my 401(k) if I could, but, short of quitting my job, I can't.
14 posted on 12/06/2012 5:29:09 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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