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1 posted on 12/05/2012 6:06:30 PM PST by Nachum
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Damn! Obamacare has not even started yet and it has already saved huge amounts of money for the proles (Owrell 1984).

The media has really done it’s research this time around, and the most amazing thing is that there were no actual facts and figures to support the results.

I wonder how that happened. The part about finding fact and figures that don’t exist yet?

Could it be obtained from the Ministry of Propaganda?


102 posted on 12/06/2012 4:40:00 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Obama: We knew health costs would go up
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/118079-obama-we-knew-health-costs-would-go-up

Obama Admin. Actuary Finds Unsustainable Status Quo Cheaper than Obamacare
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/16/obama-administration-actuaries

Barack Obama, June 23, 2009 :
“Let me be clear, When I say if you have your plan and you like it, or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don’t have to change plans, what I’m saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform.”

HEADLINES 6 months later:
1) http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/stories/2010/10/04/daily3.html

3M Co. will drop retirees from health plans, steer to Medicare
2) http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/mcdonalds-obamacare-regulations-will-cause-30000-employees-to-lose-insurance-104070558.html

McDonald’s: Obamacare regulations will cause 30,000 employees to lose insurance
3) http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/editorials/view.bg?articleid=1285332&srvc=home&position=emailed

ObamaCare Victims:
Harvard Pilgrim was forced (by Medicare’s administration) to notify its customers that their plans would be canceled as of the end of this year. The company will offer another supplemental plan offering fewer benefits at a higher premium
4) http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/06/17/2010-06-17_a_bad_omen_on_obamacare_fears_about_health_reforms_costs_are_coming_true.html#ixzz11V8GOKvg

A bad omen on Obamacare: Fears about health reform’s costs are coming true
... several major corporations reported it would take a bite out of their future earnings. This group included AT&T, Caterpillar, John Deere, Verizon and several other large employers.
5) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/30/obamacares-health-hazard/


104 posted on 12/06/2012 6:00:07 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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Consumers saved nearly $1.5 billion in 2011 as a result of rules in President Obama´s healthcare law that limit what insurance companies can spend on expenses unrelated to medical care,

Notice how the article oh-so-carefully avoids the hot topic of health insurance PREMIUMS, that are climbing like an SR-71 on takeoff. But... shhhhhhhh.... the sheeple are happy and placid now....mustn't disturb the stupor...

105 posted on 12/06/2012 6:03:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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“...Affordable Care Act forced insurers to become more efficient by limiting their administrative expenses...”

Let’s do this with congress and the white hut...


108 posted on 12/06/2012 12:56:44 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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my wifes went up, mine went up.

Seriously these states like CA, NY, MA ec are lost, even the people loving there for the most part think this will be the truth and then they will repeat it over Christmas to their family and friends


109 posted on 12/06/2012 2:09:50 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Per capita, does 1.5 billion come to more than or less than five shekels? Per household it might come to 20. I ask in shekels, because I think soon the dollar will be worth less than those little pewter Israeli coins. Just keep printing ‘em.


110 posted on 12/06/2012 2:25:52 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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From wiki:

The Commonwealth Fund’s current president is Karen Davis, a nationally recognized economist who has an extensive background in public policy and research. Before joining the Fund, she served as chairman of the Department of Health Policy and Management at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, where she also held an appointment as professor of economics. She served as deputy assistant secretary for health policy in the Department of Health and Human Services from 1977–1980, under the Carter administration, and was the first woman to head a U.S. Public Health Service agency. Prior to her government career, Davis was a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C.,


111 posted on 12/06/2012 4:07:01 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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Daddy! Mommy and I saved $450 on your CitiBank card when we went on our shopping spree today!!!


115 posted on 12/07/2012 8:12:41 AM PST by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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'Obamacare' saves consumers nearly $1.5 billion

And it only cost a trillion dollars.

116 posted on 12/09/2012 3:24:29 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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