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To: Mozilla
This is pure political suicide.

More better we work to remake the GOP than to hand the Dems/Marxists/anti-colonialists the entire country.

BTW, I'm one who suspects that Mitt likely won the fair election; and that election fraud is what flipped the count. (No proof, just a strong, strong suspicion.)

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2 posted on 12/03/2012 10:06:11 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

“More better we work to remake the GOP than to hand the Dems/Marxists/anti-colonialists the entire country.”

It’s not going to happen... The GOP is not, on balance, a conservative party and it’s not going to be. The truth is that conservatives outnumber liberals. Some conservatives are in the republican party, some independent and some democrats.

The Tea party can draw from all three and become the dominant party.


4 posted on 12/03/2012 10:17:02 PM PST by babygene
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I don’t think there’s that much difference...it’s going to take a MASSIVE amount of MONEY and some very strong individuals who are willing to step up and work their tails off no matter which option you prefer.

A third party may be no more suicidal than hoping to wrest control of the GOP away from the moderate/RINO/elitists.

Unless you have a plan for doing that - in which case I’m sure we’d all love to hear it.

And the same goes for the third party advocates. And your plan had better include a a way to raise at least $250 million, which is a fraction of what was spent failing to get registered Republicans to vote a month ago.


5 posted on 12/03/2012 10:20:31 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Seaplaner

>>> This is pure political suicide. More better we work to remake the GOP than to hand the Dems/Marxists/anti-colonialists the entire country.

WHAT????

What the hell you think we just did here on Nov 6???

The GOP just DID hand the entire country over to to the dems.

2 straight elections in a row, against an illegitimate clearly muslim socialist anti-American.

If the GOP can’t handle Obama, then we need a new party.

We’ll worry about the chance of winning a presidential run when we get that far.

In the meantime, it looks to me to be the only way we can get the GOP’s attention is to leave.

The GOP is dead. It refuses to face the political reality that we are under attack from within.

Time to fight back. Sign me up... anywhere except the GOP.

I will start myself by re-registering as an independent.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 10:22:39 PM PST by Safrguns
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You can’t remake something that is broke. The GOP in and of itself has deep seated establishment people in place that won’t go away silently or publicly.

1.The rule changes that gave the Establishment more power at the convention usurped the voices of the voters there who cried Nay.

2. They just pushed out key fiscal conservatives from the budget committees

3. they are pushing Jeb Bush or Rubio who is a lackey for Bush.

4. We just lost again with another moderate who all of the so called Republican pundits claim was the only one that could win

5. We have Republicans power brokers behind the scenes trashing our conservative leaders to the national media

What more can they do when some here will get the message -— they will destroy a conservative before they will attack one if their own democrat lite person


8 posted on 12/03/2012 10:23:51 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Seaplaner
This is pure political suicide.

This message brought to you by the GOP. (BTW: Mitt Romney was "The Only Candidate Who Can Win™". In 2016, it will be Jeb Bush's turn to be "The Only Candidate Who Can Win™".)

12 posted on 12/03/2012 10:51:49 PM PST by Washi
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The GOP is become our generation's Judenrat for the enemy.

I guess you didn't read the news, or you are a party hack for the Establishment Collaborators.

Boehner, GOP Leaders Purge Conservatives from Committees

The GOP itself committed more than suicide by collaborating with the MarxoFascists- they may well be the arm that carries out genocide against Conservatives if history repeats itself.

14 posted on 12/03/2012 11:04:47 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Seaplaner
More better we work to remake the GOP than to hand the Dems/Marxists/anti-colonialists the entire country.

Never again. Dole. McCain. Romney. The GOP is dead to me.

23 posted on 12/04/2012 4:39:06 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Seaplaner

This is pure political suicide.


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over the same way and expecting a different result.

That is exactly what you are saying.

“We are going to fix the party...We are going to fix the party...We are going to fix the party...We are going to fix the party...We are going to fix the party...We are going to fix the party!

Take it for what it is but YOU AREN’T GOING TO FIX THE PARTY! It’s so corrupted by the elite within the system that there is no possibility of fixing it or having it grow some cajones. The lifers within the party are so far “in bed” with their cronies and special interests that it will never change. Each member of Congress is in it for themselves and the enriched lifestyle that comes with it. They could care less about the “little people.”

With each passing year the same mantra appears “we will fix the party.” With each passing year the Republicans lose more and more disenfranchised voters from their system and with each passing year they lose more and more elections.

“New blood” that comes to the party is either quashed by the elite or becomes corrupted by the system so that within a year or two, there is no “new blood” left in the party.

It’s time to go.......get them out of power and replace it with a party THAT FEARS THE VOTERS and will do their bidding.


36 posted on 12/04/2012 8:02:53 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Seaplaner

It hasn’t worked trying to fix the GOP. Some of our own tea party candidates have failed. Your point as the article said is one view, but the fact is that it has gotten even harder to fix the GOP as the establishment has doubled down and made it worse. It is not political suicide to me to try a new strategy. It is suicide to stay with the people who are doing nothing to save the country and that is the republicans establishment. The GOP could be fighting the fraud in the election, but they don’t even acknowledge it. Some fighters they are.


40 posted on 12/04/2012 8:24:12 AM PST by Mozilla
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