Posted on 12/03/2012 7:31:09 AM PST by Brookhaven
lolol
I don’t find that strange at all. In fact, I think you nailed it..
Exactly. But we don’t have to cheer about it. Or giggle like a fool.
Or do you want a SoCon with values and beliefs that you can trust who will work against the status quo we now have politically?
Abortion is a contentious issue for libertarian leaning Republicans and I've heard a lot of libertarians stand for a lot of things, but never anything remotely similar to socialism. For that, you have to go the the SoCon only types who will trade almost every right for the ability to dictate when and where I can have a beer or what I can and can't teach my kids. No thanks, I'll stick to the Constitution.
What does that supposed to mean?
and what exactly are you teaching your kids?
RINO File.
That, "sir", is none of your damn business.
Ladies and gentlemen, case in point. This is what these so-called "Social Conservatives" want: to enter our homes to dictate how we teach our own children.
No, pot shouldn’t be free...
We should legalize and tax it like any other product, alcohol causes more deaths per year than pot.
It’s already been show in Amsterdam and Portugal that when pot was made legal use of more harder drugs went down, because when you have to buy from a dealer, like any business, they’re going to push their more expensive and profitable stuff (cocaine, heroine, crack), but when people are able to purchase pot from a legal source, there’s no push for the harder stuff, so use goes down.
None the less, yes, we should legalize it and tax it.
Well, I don't either. It's a sin; that's God's business, and he will take care of it Himself. After all, He hasn't delegated that to anyone else. But we should warn our erring brothers.
As for the point about marriage and the tax laws: well, we got into the current mess one step at a time, and will have to extract ourselves from it either the same way, or the wa the Founding Fathers did. Until then, though, there is no point in making it worse.
I've always argued that Libs are for more taxes which, of course, leads to bigger government. Thanks for proving my point.
You’re right with regards to God sorting it out, but that’s something that you and I believe, others may not see it as a sin within their own belief system, that’s the other reason I feel the whole issue isn’t something the government should be involved in, you can’t and shouldn’t try to legislate anyone’s belief system on another.
In the same breath, we shouldn’t use the force of government from forcing any religion to conduct gay marriages if it’s against their belief system.
In many areas the government should stay out of peoples lives period.
I also believe that a persons religious views shouldn’t be forced on people through the government either, our founders saw what the Church of England was doing and felt that people should be free to worship as they choose and that the government shouldn’t enforce any religious beliefs on another.
Politicians are always going to shape their opinions based on their faith at times, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but they shouldn’t go so far as to force their beliefs on others through law.
It’s a fine line, but it’s one that always needs to be walked, as long as they realize in the end that personal freedoms should always trump all.
Actually, no that doesn’t lead to bigger government, we already have the agencies in place to manage the regulation of pot.
As calling me liberal because I think we should tax it, that’s just your knee jerk reaction since you’re obviously unable to debate in an intelligent manner the subject at hand, so you resort to insults.
There’s nothing wrong with taxing a product and using the revenue to offset the cost of regulation and they allow state and local governments to generate revenue through a use tax since the product isn’t a necessity, it’s a choice to use it or not, so taxing it is perfectly fine.
Latest polls show no matter what, Republicans are going to be blamed which means Democrats will not want a "compromise"--they want the fiscal cliff. It will happen in spite of the fact this nation will suffer for it but it won't matter, we have a nation full of idiots. The idiots will get what they want, they control the Senate and the presidency.
Well, I don’t see that we have a disagreement about the use of the government.
But I also believe that such rules as exist should definitely cut both ways. If the enemy is hitting below the belt, kick ‘em in the balls.
STOP,and THINK. This will not work. We must overlook what we don't like in others but still look at them as allies in our desire to defeat the real enemy--Democrats.
If you don't like another faction, simply defeat them in the primaries--outnumber them in the primary and then advance the ball down the field.
or outnumbered.
Here we go, there’s always someone who doesn’t like someone else. My enemy is the Democrats.
Not going to happen.
The GOP will not allow it.
Actually, no that doesn’t lead to bigger government, we already have the agencies in place to manage the regulation of pot.
If pot is legalized, it will create huge new bureaus and agencies. It will create a demand for millions of new government jobs to control, regulate and punish thousands of those who violate the thousands of new laws that legalization will bring. Case in point: There are more laws controlling and restricting alcohold now than there ever was during Prohibition.
As calling me liberal because I think we should tax it, that’s just your knee jerk reaction since you’re obviously unable to debate in an intelligent manner the subject at hand, so you resort to insults.
Who's knee-jerking here? Are you or are you not a social liberal AKA a libertarian? You are taking a liberal position. Accept it. Own it.
There’s nothing wrong with taxing a product and using the revenue to offset the cost of regulation and they allow state and local governments to generate revenue through a use tax since the product isn’t a necessity, it’s a choice to use it or not, so taxing it is perfectly fine.
What you're talking about here is a Sin Tax. You want the government to profit off of the misery inflicted on weak and stupid citizens who drink, smoke, gamble and use dangerous drugs. That's wrong, friend. Big Time Wrong.
Then we agree. My enemies are Democrats too. Democrats in the Conservative movement (AKA libertarians)
Each state could go fully communist as long as that state did not violate any of the BOR's. Each state could be a Libertarian paradise. The states should be 50 laboratories of governance. If you don't like it in one state you used to be able to vote with your feet. The republic has been so bastardized that it is now under the thumb of the FEDs which are socialist. The original intent of the USC was to prevent that from happening. As such the USC is an utter failure. I totally understand what the original intent was, so spare me.
Good post, central_va. We've had our disagreements in the past, but you're spot on with this here. Well done.
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