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Al-Qaradawi: The President of the Global Muslim Brotherhood
In-Extremis | December 1 | Katechon

Posted on 12/01/2012 8:00:59 PM PST by Katechon

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To: Katechon

Mr. Wahhab was a close friend to Mr. bin Saud, right?


61 posted on 12/02/2012 5:10:51 PM PST by Katechon
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“Qaradawi’s Extremism Laid Bare”
IPT News
February 6, 2009

http://www.investigativeproject.org/992/qaradawis-extremism-laid-bare

December 31, 2011 4:00 A.M.
“Obama Recruits Qaradawi
The administration is working with a Muslim Brotherhood jurist.”
By Andrew C. McCarthy

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/286854/obama-recruits-qaradawi-andrew-c-mccarthy


62 posted on 12/02/2012 5:19:08 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

“Obama Recruits Qaradawi”

HOLY COW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


63 posted on 12/02/2012 5:21:35 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

WIKI - SAUDIA ARABIA

The emergence of what was to become the Saudi royal family, known as the Al Saud, began in Nejd in central Arabia in 1744, when Muhammad bin Saud, founder of the dynasty, joined forces with the religious leader Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab,[23] founder of the Wahhabi movement, a strict puritanical form of Sunni Islam.[24] This alliance formed in the 18th century provided the ideological impetus to Saudi expansion and remains the basis of Saudi Arabian dynastic rule today...


64 posted on 12/02/2012 5:25:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: combat_boots
"We Wait for the Revenge of Allah to Descend Upon Them [i.e. the Jews] – And, Allah Willing, It Will Be By Our Own Hands"

-- Qaradawi,

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3006.htm

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From the Hindu article linked by McCarthy:

Yusuf al-Qaradawi [...] has emerged as a key mediator in secret talks between the U.S. and the Taliban, government sources have told The Hindu.

[...]

New Delhi, Indian diplomatic sources said, has been warily watching Mr. al-Qaradawi's emergence as peace broker — fearful that his growing influence could help regional jihadist groups like the Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad find new sanctuaries in a rapidly changing West Asia or a future Afghan regime which includes the Taliban.

Earlier this month, the sources said, Mr. al-Qaradawi helped draw a road map for a deal between the Taliban and the United States, aimed at giving the superpower a face-saving political settlement ahead of its planned withdrawal from Afghanistan which is due to begin in 2014.

In return for the release of prisoners still held by the United States at Guantanamo Bay, the lifting of United Nations sanctions on its leadership and its recognition as a legitimate political group, the Taliban was expected to agree to sever its links to transnational organisations like al-Qaeda, end violence and eventually share power with the Afghan government.

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Egyptian-born Mr. al-Qaradawi is seen by both the United States and the Taliban traditionalists as an ally in the battle against the growing influence of this new generation of commanders. Expelled from his homeland for his Islamist views, he has emerged over the last year as ideological pole star of the Muslim Brotherhood — now West Asia's most influential political movement.

In 1993, Mr. al-Qaradawi issued a landmark edict endorsing democratic pluralism; the Muslim Brotherhood later cast its embrace of electoral politics in Egypt and elsewhere as a form of da'wa, or proselytising missionary work. Even though Mr. al-Qaradawi said he remained committed to “the spread of Islam until it conquers the entire world,” he argued this could be achieved peacefully.

He condemned 9/11 and, in September, 2005, described the Iraqi jihadist Abu Musa'ab al-Zarqawi as a “criminal.” In a 2009 book, he defended armed jihad under specific conditions — Kashmir, Iraq and, later, Libya were among those cases he endorsed — but lashed out at al-Qaeda for a “mad declaration of war on the whole world.”

Mr. al-Qaradawi explained his logic thus to Der Spiegel: “The [Muslim Brotherhood] have tried [jihad], but [jihad] has not been helpful, and we have not gained anything out of [jihad] other than detention, suffering, and victimisation.

The Muslim Brotherhood's decision to embrace electoral politics incensed al-Qaeda. In 2008, al-Qaeda's now-chief Ayman al-Zawahiri lashed out at the Muslim Brotherhood for accepting the Egyptian constitution, rather than God's word, as a source of law — a fundamental betrayal, he claimed, of the precepts of Islam. In many countries, Brotherhood cadre clashed with salafi-jihadist groups sympathetic to al-Qaeda.

Key Brotherhood leaders like Said Ramadan, the historian Ian Johnson has shown, were cultivated by the United States' Central Intelligence Agency for anti-communist operations —along with several central and west Asian Islamists who fought with German fascist forces against the Soviet Union in 1941-1945.

Expelled by Egypt's socialist rulers for his neo-fundamentalist views, Dr. Ramadan received a warm reception — and a radio programme — when he landed in Pakistan in 1948.

The Pakistani-Canadian scholar Tarek Fatah said Dr. Ramadan's work “was instrumental in turning a secular Muslim country into a hotbed of Islamic extremism.” Dr. Ramadan also visited the White House in 1953, where he met with President Dwight Eisenhower."

http://www.thehindu.com/news/article2755817.ece

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Yes the same Said Ramadan I was talking about in my Birth of the Muslim Brotherhood thread...

Hassan al-Banna (left), حسن البنا and Saïd Ramadan (right), سعيد رمضان

more here...

65 posted on 12/02/2012 5:44:42 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Yup.

Caroline Glick had an article some time back about the Arab ‘Spring’ and the lunacy of American instigation of and involvement in it. She aptly discussed al-Qaradawi’s move to consider Islam as ‘evolving’ (his word), which has effected the mixing of Wahabbi and Salafist thought. So, we really DO have PURE, holy war on our hands.

“The Third Jihad”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3BGwQr8xg4


66 posted on 12/02/2012 5:53:42 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Katechon

You’re in Thailand?

I take it you know of Steve Emerson and his work. Daniel Pipes, too.


67 posted on 12/02/2012 6:00:13 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

so it looks like we have an alliance between the Obama régime and the Muslim Brotherhood against al-Qeada...


68 posted on 12/02/2012 6:01:25 PM PST by Katechon
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To: combat_boots

Yope, Chiang Mai.

No, I don’t know Steve Emerson’s work. I will go right away on amazon to order his book on Said Ramadan however.

I know only Pipes by name...

I’m new into this field!


69 posted on 12/02/2012 6:03:17 PM PST by Katechon
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To: combat_boots

I meant Ian Johnson’s book on Said Ramadan.

http://www.ian-johnson.com/slideshow/mimslideshow.html


70 posted on 12/02/2012 6:07:32 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Fred Nerks

And if and/or when they do, they will destroy themselves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I agree that they would do so and plunge the area back into the medieval era. Whether this is done or not depends on the religious fervor of the MUllahs and Imams who run Iran these days.

The greater question is would such an incident enable the Shi’ites to take Mecca from the House of Saud, ruining the Saudi transport of their oil to the West and weakening the Saudi military?

I believe the revolutionary council of Iran could easily decide to close or blockade the Straights of Hormuz using a nuclear device.


71 posted on 12/02/2012 6:21:33 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: combat_boots

Looks like the CIA program between Ramadan’s Muslim Brotherhood and the U.S. was American Committee for the Liberation from Bolshevism (Amcolib).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Committee_for_the_Liberation_of_the_Peoples_of_Russia


72 posted on 12/02/2012 6:24:20 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Aliiance? Nope. IMHO, DC is almost completely infiltrated. On all sides. See the Wahabbi corridor. See Paul Sperry.

AQ is an offshoot of the MB. From where I sit, the most powerful centers outside the ME for the Ikhwan are London and Chicago. I bet Jakarta is a hotbed though, as any connection with the Molacca Strait chokepoint would be.

Just start going backwards: http://www.carolineglick.com/

Steve Emerson was the last American to interview Bin Laden. http://www.iacsp.com/itobli3.html

Daniel Pipes: http://www.danielpipes.org/


73 posted on 12/02/2012 6:25:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Katechon

How did you come to be in this field, anyway?


74 posted on 12/02/2012 6:27:34 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Candor7

Iran would simply be shooting itself in the foot - the country relies for 8O% of its income on the petro-chemical industry, which needs the Strait for shipment. The remainder 20% is divided between fruit and nuts and carpets.

Closing the Strait and making it unnavigable as you suggest, would mean the population starves - be interesting to see how long the mullahs survive when it comes to that.


75 posted on 12/02/2012 6:59:04 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Iran would simply be shooting itself in the foot>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Agreed. I hope the Mullahs do not last at all if they do it.
But then who would have thought that they would have lasted this longince the overthrow of the Shah, they have ruined their country and spend most of their oil money on exporting terror, the military, and running a nuclear weapons program, and little on government and education.Yet the population has not risen against them.
One wonders whether the Arab Spring will ever come to Iran.


76 posted on 12/02/2012 7:18:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: combat_boots

Trying to understand Benghazi!


77 posted on 12/02/2012 7:33:03 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Candor7
It's an entirely new situation...like the ancient egyptians were in the habit of saying...happened, that which never before happened... there's no such thing as the arab spring all there is, is the removal of strong governments that could boast an enconomy and kept the fanatics at bay, governments that allowed it's minorities to survive. The arab spring has swept them all from power, and replaced them with salafists who massacred the black foreign workers in Libya, and are now, militia against militia fighting amongst themselves for power.

The Tunisians, having enjoyed their arab spring are back in the streets rioting, as are the disillusioned egyptians.There's no sooner a celebration we have democracy! and then the realization hits them.

What they have isn't any kind of Spring what they have is oppression and the straight path of mohammad (the salafist path) which the Muslim Brotherhood wants them all to follow which is going to lead them back to the 7th Century.

It's a repressive sytem. It's a destructive system. Islam suits the sterile desert environment it came from. How are they planning to dominate the world? They can't even rule or feed themselves.

And all Iran can do is threaten. Sure, someone is going to get hurt. But ultimately it's islam that will hurt the most. And they'll be doing it to themselves.

78 posted on 12/02/2012 9:54:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Candor7

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/28/us-libya-refinery-protests-idUSBRE8AR1BO20121128

Looking for news out of Libya? Forget it. I can’t find anything past November 28, when the ‘rebels’ were threatening to shut down the refinery in Tripoli; I gather they wanted free fuel and weren’t getting any.
Happy arab spring...


79 posted on 12/02/2012 10:41:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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And all Iran can do is threaten. Sure, someone is going to get hurt. But ultimately it’s islam that will hurt the most. And they’ll be doing it to themselves. >>>>>>>>>>>

And lets hope that Bibi can help accelerate the process.But if Iran has a nuclear option, one can barely figure whether they will use it on themselves or Israel first. They truly are discivilized and quite insane in their societal manifestation, there is no logic.Shooting themselves in the foot is no deterrent.


80 posted on 12/03/2012 2:57:50 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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