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To: snarkybob
This was never about wage busting. It was about a business model that adults decided to crash, and now complain about. There is a considerable difference.

I would say that whatever the earlier business model, that’s not the case now.  If it were meant as a kids job, they should have maintained the practice of hiring kids.

I believe the employer's only duty is to hire a person who can do the job and is willing to work for the wages that have been offered.  When this McDonald's unit hired these people, they did so because the potential employees asked to work for those wages.  McDonalds hired them in mutual good faith.  The potenitail employees agree to the parameters, and McDonalds agreed to allow them to work for under those parameters.  How would it have been beneficial if McDonalds had refused to hire them in the first place, because they were too old, didn't fit their business model?

I’m actually part of the problem as I don’t eat fast food, but my kids do sometimes. The McDs nearest our house only has adult workers and their English is not very good.

Saying that you are a part of a problem as it relates to this is not accurate.  You are simply making a choice that is yours to make.  You probably made a decision based on health or some other logical reasoning.  Good for you.  I fully support your decision, and it's no problem whatsoever.  You've done nothing negative here.

As for the employees you describe, there's your reason.  These folks can barely function in English.  Now they want salaries commensurate with a person who can function in the language of this nation.


I don’t know if they’re illegals ot guest workers.

Neither one should be here, if they aren't fully capable of speaking English, or educated well enough to providing for themselves and their families.  Here we are assessing blame on a business for extending it's hand to hire people nobody else would.  And this is what they get for it?

Shouldn't the blame here be on these people who are not qualified to participate in the broader jobs market?  Surely you must see some truth in this.

I agree with the other points you made.


I appreciate that.

Take care.

144 posted on 12/02/2012 12:55:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Shouldn’t the blame here be on these people who are not qualified to participate in the broader jobs market? Surely you must see some truth in this.”

I do blame them, but I also blame the people who imported them and gave them jobs.
I realize flipping burgers isn’t the same as working for Boeing.
But, the argument that unions distort the market and artificialy inflate labor overlooks the fact that guest workers and illegals artificialy drive the labor market down.
If the only way to keep the price from going up is to hire illegals or guest workers doesn’t that subvert the free market.


146 posted on 12/02/2012 1:17:30 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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