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Why Asian Americans Voted So Overwhelmingly For Obama
TBI ^ | 12-1-2012 | Menzie Chinn

Posted on 12/01/2012 6:50:41 AM PST by blam

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To: SierraWasp
said, "tendency toward conformity, compliance and a comfort zone"

you are very right the Asians I know are big on not creating waves. If the media is telling them one thing they will go with it based on conformity even if it is not their own beliefs

81 posted on 12/01/2012 10:07:50 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: grimalkin

Thanks. You can see my post #79 that is similar to what your mother said. I respect that most NE Asians that get here are smart but too many are into reaming out the welfare system. India/Pakistan immigrants are a different deal not saying better or worse as far as exploiting the social welfare systems in America


82 posted on 12/01/2012 10:17:32 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Perception is everything, and right now Asians perceive Republicans as racist, nativist, and anti-science. The GOPe has done exactly nothing to counter this largely false Democrat caricature, so the party is reaping the rewards of its inaction. 

The Dems are no better than us. Are lazy idiots and crude Soviet style propagandists parroting themes and buzzwords repeatedly to rope in the low information voters. You give the Republicans control of the mass media and we would be wining election after election. This won't be happening soon but the Republican negatives you mention are just not there. They are cooked up the Dems working with their media machine for brainwashing the masses

Glenn Beck understands this and is trying to create a new media. Watch what he does. Last 30 years the Dems took over education and the media. This is why we have the problems of today

83 posted on 12/01/2012 10:26:07 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Road Glide

I know who God is. I don’t know who John Derbyshire is, but thanks anyway. People who reject God have a liberal, immoral mindset. Those who follow God have the opposite mindset. Any false research to the contrary is a waste of my time to read.


84 posted on 12/01/2012 10:26:57 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: blam

I can only think they suffer the same thing as other groups.

#1 Many on the dole or family on the dole.
#2 Many working for government or have family working for government.
#3 Obama Phones....

Maybe they are very liberal minded and don’t forget if you go to YouTube it is the Asians you see capturing animals and doing things like skinning them alive, so there can be a differnt mind set.

Also, many Asians are used to communism and Democrats are there for that also.


85 posted on 12/01/2012 10:34:52 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ruthles
Many Asians own businesses and they are famous for “cooking the books.”

Yes many (but not all) do. Grew up in Asia, dated Asians. Tell me a thing or two. Problem is, Mexicans outdo the Asians on all levels. It ALL has to do with the value system with which one was trained. That is the whole story. You can scream and holler all you want to that it isn't so, but it is.

86 posted on 12/01/2012 10:37:17 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: blam
The "War on Science," like the "War on Women," is just propaganda, and it's unfortunate that Chinn fell for it. But the basic argument is valid.

A lot of us would like to define politics in terms of whether you are for or against some secular liberal elite. For a lot of people, though, especially in the cities, political positions are defined by whether you are for or against Evanglicals, fundamentalists, or moralistic social conservatives. Living mostly in metropolitan areas and not being Evangelicals or fundamentalists, most Asians voted Democrat.

Also, groups that think of themselves as being in someway "outsiders" vote for the party identified with "outsiders," and right now that's the Democrats. Was this really a surprise?

87 posted on 12/01/2012 10:42:58 AM PST by x
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To: blam
Why do you liberals trust government , government bureaucrats and politicians you morons ? And they trust them with their lives = height of idiocy.

Most idiots that vote for democrats don't understand how democrats are growing government and so taking away our freedom , opportunity to make money etc.

Hey liberal dummies socialism doesn't work and if you vote for democrats you vote for socialism(growing government) and to become slaves of the government you idiots. Why do you liberals trust government and government bureaucrats and politicians you morons?

2. Identity politics. The media has brainwashed many non-whites to think that they must vote for democrats. This is why we in the GOP have to run a non-white or woman like Palin, Haley etc. That is to break the liberal media lie and brainwashing. this is why the media smeared Palin , Cain etc so savagely

3. Most foreigners don't share our American values of liberty and limited government which is why democrats have imported 100 million non-white foreigners , mostly poor from 3rd world with their 1965 immigration act: before that most immigrants to U.S.A were white and from Europe.

88 posted on 12/01/2012 10:47:14 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: AndyJackson; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks AJ, you’re right about the anti-science trolls on FR — and there’s some truth to an anti-scientific bent in real life by many self-described conservatives and self-described Republicans.

It is, however, an indisputable fact that the Demwits are not in the least interested in the scientific method, only in using grant money to bring more people into their fold (by fostering dependency) under very easy terms — support their political agenda. That isn’t science, and isn’t scientific, and people who support the Demagogic Party because they’re doing this aren’t scientists, however they self-describe.

I’ve described it as “the political seduction of the sciences”, obviously a borrowing from Judge Bork’s “the political seduction of the law”. Where I come down on this controversy is, it isn’t immoral, illegal, or unconstitutional to have such grants, it is however where the battle is — how is the money spent? Where? On what?

Anyway, thanks again for the props, I greatly appreciate it!


89 posted on 12/01/2012 11:15:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wai-ming
A lot of Asians don't care so much about politics, and they can be easily influenced in these matters. Someone just needs to let them know that liberal Democrat policies (that they heard from academia) are wrong and against their self-interest.

Sounds like you have a handle on the situation. How about you get on that. I've got one Chinese friend (been here since he was 11) I've been working on for a few weeks now. Here's the problem: I've known this guy for almost 20 years, and 15-20 years ago he would have laughed at the very concept of gay marriage, the same way one might laugh at the idea of building houses out of ice cream. Now, he's completely invested in the whole gay marriage thing, and I think that, along with abortion, free goodies for welfare mommas, and Obamacare, was the main reason he voted Obama (his head almost popped when I told him Romney was actually pro-gay, pro-abortion, and created RomneyCare).

It's almost a tribal thing; once people decide that they are "Democrats", they then slowly absorb every aspect of the Democrat propaganda over time, especially since TV and movies are all leftwing propaganda all the time. 15 years of letting the brainwashing take hold without questioning it, all because he decided he was a Democrat.
90 posted on 12/01/2012 11:19:13 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: blam

Please refer to my tagline...


91 posted on 12/01/2012 11:22:46 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (As they say in China, erections have consequences...)
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To: blam
The polling data on which this conclusion is based is threadbare at best.

Simply backing out the Japanese American vote in Hawaii would drop all the other asian Americans down to the Republican level.

92 posted on 12/01/2012 11:25:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

I’m Asian and I did not vote for obummer.


93 posted on 12/01/2012 11:47:50 AM PST by AmericanSamurai
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To: Kickass Conservative

LOL. tis the season to be jarry fa ra ra ra ra ra.. ra ra ra ra..


94 posted on 12/01/2012 11:51:04 AM PST by AmericanSamurai
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To: wai-ming

Exactly! Thanks for the sense of humor...


95 posted on 12/01/2012 12:05:37 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: blam

I think the answer is found in two areas, which are only tangentially about ethnicity.

The first is education. Asian-Americans have college degrees in greater numbers than any other generalized ethnic group, and college-educated people are more likely to be indoctrinated in the ideology of the Democratic Party.

The second is the general East Asian tendency towards Confucian rather than Aristotelian thinking. Confucian ethics promote group rather than individual effort, along with the idea of the benevolent ruler who regulates the lives of his subjects for their own benefit—such as in Singapore, though it is also true at varying levels in Japan, South Korea, and the “Han” areas in China.

There’s also a third possibility, which, if it is indeed part of the picture, would be more true of recent immigrants. Just as the immigrant Jews from eastern Europe, Russia, and Ukraine were socialists because of their old-country influences, immigrant Asians bring with them the semi-to-full-socialist presumptions of their native lands.


96 posted on 12/01/2012 12:08:35 PM PST by chajin
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To: grimalkin

“....if anyone tells you that Asian’s voted for Obama because of anything other than handouts, don’t believe a word of it. The local Asian media is just as bad as the MSM.”

You’ve pretty well nailed it there. Also, being educated means they’ve been through and indoctrinated by the liberal higher education scam.


97 posted on 12/01/2012 12:36:59 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Right Brother

Good point. I bet you cannot find a 2012 exit poll anywhere that says that evolution is the number one issue, or even in the top ten.

Most Dem don’t like Republican social conservatives for two reasons —

(1) Because social cons don’t think the government should honor and recognize anal sex
(2) Social cons oppose sleeping around and having lots of abortions.

It’s that simple.


98 posted on 12/01/2012 1:25:59 PM PST by heye2monn (A)
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To: wai-ming
If you must slant, at least slant to the right.


99 posted on 12/01/2012 1:45:23 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: heye2monn

I think there has been a big change in the Asian community over the years. I know a lot of conservative ones, but they are the Japanese, Chinese and Korean who assimilated into the culture.

Now in the south end of Seattle we have huge populations of Asian immigrants of one stripe or another who barely speak English. All of the signs are in some Asian language. If one gets lost down there no one can help you because they do not speak the language.

Huge big apartment dwellings. They are less assimilated than the blacks. Even the worst of the ghetto blacks can speak a semblance of English and the ones from other countries often speak better English than we do in America.

But the new Asian culture seems to have no desire to become American. Probably the dims can go into these strange communities and load folks onto buses and take them to vote. They probably have sample ballots on the buses to show them what to punch since they cannot read them.


100 posted on 12/01/2012 1:51:44 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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