Romney internal polls mystery deepens after New Republic report

Philly.com (Inquirer and Daily News) ^ | 11/30/2012 | Scott Bomboy

[dirtboy]

It may take election experts years to unravel the mystery of why Mitt Romney was convinced he had won the 2012 presidential election, as a new report shows some skewed internal poll numbers, and explains Romney’s two trips to Pennsylvania.

But at the same time, the article from The New Republic’s Noam Scheiber shows inconsistencies with reports from November 5 and November 6 about the numbers that might have convinced Romney and his team that he had a good chance of beating President Obama in Ohio.

Obama’s resounding win is starting to take on more of a resemblance to Harry Truman’s “upset” in 1948, with Romney playing the role of Thomas Dewey.

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Obama wound up with 332 electoral votes, taking every swing state except North Carolina. Somehow, the Romney campaign was seemingly convinced that he would win one of the final three swing states, or make a strong showing in Pennsylvania.

[snip]

The conclusion is that Romney, based on his internal polls, thought he had at least 267 out of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the election, and the election would be decided in four states: Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Nevada

[ryderann]

“
If I were Romney right now, I would hire a phalanx of the best private detectives in the country to investigate voter fraud”

Let’s hope that’s exactly what he’s doing right now.

[G Larry]

Now, you will see the price of endorsing Satan, while pretending to protest a candidate, falling short of your ideal.

[Delta Dawn]

Fraud, fraud you say???

I am still waiting for someone to look into the 59 precincts in Philadelphia where Romney received no votes.

I believe that that may be a statistical impossibility.

[Agamemnon]

Just my guess, looks like the Democrats created about 350,000 to 389,000 Obama votes from thin air in Ohio.

Four years of building a ground game for committing fraud costs money.

The descriptions of 70,000 observed fraudulent activities is probably just the tip of it.

As told in the WSJ, Oct 30, 2009, SEIU's Andy Stern was the most frequent visitor to the White House to that point in the Obama's 1st year in office. Why do you suppose?

Might it have something to do with $800 Billion in stimulus money? How much of that money was transformed into Federalized "walking around" money to develop the organization necessary to pull of the coup 4 years later?

Think of how much of the money went to prop up UAW pension funds, and possibly some other black budgeted thing in the Job-less Stimulus bux doled out on the side that just was allowed to slip through the cracks when the House oversight was run by Dems in 2009 -2010. Imagine what unemployed UAW guys can do with "stimulus" $ in their hands, and instructions from union bosses in their pockets.

I say that since we have a Darrell Issa and others with Committee powers of investigation, turn them loose on a Stimulus money disbursement audit. Focus on progeny of Acorn and SEIU in particular -- cause and effect investigations of Stern post WH visits.

12 of 16 congressional districts in OH voted for Romney, yet the state went to Obama. 17 of 27 in FL went Romney, 6 of 11 in VA went for Romney. See a pattern? Maybe before the Electoral College meets, all the States that are run by all-(R) Gov's and legislatures should meet in emergency session and apportion their Electoral votes like ME and NE do.

Romney had money to go up against the Obama machine that McCain did not have thanks to the Citizen's United decision. Romney raised very nearly as much as did Obama. Obama's fund raining was still foreign and suspect. How about doing a Congressional investigation of that?

The (R) House can befuddle this Administration with incessant investigations. The (R) House can defund Obamacare implementation in States where they refuse to create state-based exchanges.

The question is, in 2016 will the mis-allocated Stimulus money of 2008 be spent through to the point where there isn't the same ability to defraud a run undertaken by a Marco Rubio or a Ted Cruz?

FReegards!

[napscoordinator]

Get over it.

[X-spurt]

First I have heard that claim! I must have been in a vacuum, either that or someone is trying to puff a bit of smoke toward my direction in an effort to downplay the 3+ million idiots who backdoor voted for nobama.

Don’t come on spouting something of that magnitude without a verifible reference.

[Ingtar]

CNN election results and exit polls for 2008 and 2012:

McCain Romney
58,343,671 59,142,004
GOP 90% 93%

CONS 78% (34% of people) 82% (35% of people)
MODS 60% (44% of people) 56% (41% of people)

So who is spouting something of great magnitude without numbers to back it up?

[X-spurt]

Let’s see, on the list of reliable sources, where does CNN fit? What? near the bottom......

[dervish]

They don’t think it’s fraud because in their version of morality the ends justify the means. That is the view of all good commies.

[nwrep]

"Fraud won 0 the election" is just another one in a long, but recent, line of discredited Freeper fantasies.

After the 2004 election, when Bush won, it was the turn of the fringe elements on the other side to make such claims. Their argument was "Diebold stole the election for Bush."

Thankfully, the Kerry campaign ignored that nonsense.

I presume the Romney campaign also is ignoring these "fraud" accusations.

[raygunfan]

perhaps they are ignoring the areas where the turnout for obama was over 100 percent (must be that new math) or where certain districts, romney got zero votes...

yeah, sounds like fantasy...

[Lancey Howard]

The election was won by Ubama because of the excellent Colin Powell TV ad that was aired in the final two weeks.
No joke.

[Ingtar]

Then look at those same numbers on FOX or any other election returns site.

Jeremiah 5:21 seems to apply to most after this last election.

[X-spurt]

You made the claim, you bring the info to back your claim.

[Ingtar]

I did bring forth the information. Or does it only count if it comes from a talking head of your choosing instead of simply looking at the election results for yourself?

[Chaguito]

Video from 2000. So Bush was elected by voting machine fraud in Ohio?

[X-spurt]

NO.
You bring your collaberation from a known invalid source, CNN. Anyone on FR recognizes that as undesputable.

It is not my obligation to prove your claim, that responsibility lies solely with the claimant, my FRiend.

It is growing quite obvious you can not find another more beleiveable source to prove your excuses for those “mis-guided” that assisted in giving nobama a second chance at destroying America.

[Ingtar]

It might help if you give the source for your claim. Where are the numbers that prove what you say?

[X-spurt]

Come on you are a good conservative, don’t start playing the dems style game.

[Ingtar]

I’m not. The returns and exit polls are the same on all the news sites; they have a single source. CNN keeps theirs more accessible. All I was showing was that the actual numbers do not match the popular meme. Where are the numbers showing 3 million remained home and gave the election to Obama. The Conservatives were up by 1% over 2008 and Romney got 4% more of them. It doesn’t matter which of the sites you pull the numbers from, unless they have not updated since election night when counting was not finished.