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Yes, Romney Was the Problem
realclearpolitics.com ^ | November 27, 2012 | Steve Baldwin

Posted on 11/29/2012 7:55:36 AM PST by Resettozero

The GOP establishment and some conservative pundits, such as Ann Coulter, are in full defense mode, claiming that Romney is not responsible for losing to an incumbent responsible for perhaps the most damaging fiscal crises in our nation’s history. Don’t believe it. Romney IS responsible for wasting a billion dollars to carry out an issue-free campaign full of simple-minded platitudes. Indeed, Coulter is leading the charge with her recent column titled, Don’t Blame Romney. It’s sweet to watch Coulter defend her darling Romney, but let’s get real.

The reality is that Romney was one of the worst GOP presidential candidates in modern times. He was not the first choice of most conservative voters but he managed to rise through the ranks in the primary due to conservatives being split 4-5 ways, but also due to a slew of endorsements from conservative leaders and groups that had no business endorsing him – such as Ann Coulter. Repeatedly, Coulter assured conservatives that Romney was one of us and that he would be the “best possible candidate” to face Obama. But as any conservative from Massachusetts knew, Romney was a liberal at heart who, as Governor, led the nation in passing three of the left’s most sacred issues: Same sex marriage, Cap and Trade, and government control of health care.

But the Romney forces were clever. Beginning in 2004, they created a half dozen PACs to give money to conservative and GOP entities all over the country. I’ve reviewed these disclosures and hundreds of GOP and conservative entities benefitted from Romney’s largess. In other words, he bought the support of many “conservative leaders” and used that support to give himself “cred” among conservative voters. It was a phony image though and it’s shameful that so many conservative leaders went along with this ruse.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aristocracy; boughtandpaidfor; failure; gope; gopestablishment; gopoligarchy; romney; romney2012; unelectable
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To: softwarecreator
and can't get past the hatred

MORE LIBERAL SPEAK!!

I am getting bored with people who won't get past it.

YOU ARE the MOVEON.ORG type. Who are easily bored with truth because you have NO defense!

If you want to ignore the facts

You have NO facts - just propaganda!

121 posted on 11/29/2012 10:27:42 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: gdani

“As long as people keep lining up behind candidates like Romney (and McCain, Dole, GWB, etc) the GOP will keep nominating them.”

GWB is not in the same cut as the other three.

And he won twice.

GWB is and ran more conservative than Dole, McCain or Romney.


122 posted on 11/29/2012 10:27:58 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: patriot08

I hear ya. But what I’d like to know is how do we stop the IRS from forwarding ANY money at all to the D or R Party. Not giving permission on Forms 1040 et al doesn’t seem to keep the money from flowing anyway.


123 posted on 11/29/2012 10:29:49 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: newheart

Romney talked about the economy/money because that is where his interest is as well as his BIG donors. IT was not about America - one reason Benghazi,etc. was never brought up, IMO. Romney was NOT a well-rounded candidate to appeal to the masses. They painted him as a 1% and he lived up to it!

NEWT has America running through his veins and they/GOP/ROMNEY didn’t want him. He campaigned about AMERICA and not just money.


124 posted on 11/29/2012 10:37:34 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

believe what you want to your peril.

of course we need to run a strong conservative next time.. and they will trot out some gal like Clinton, or Obama’s wife, or some such thing, and that person will win.

it’s going to take a long time to educate this country.. it’s lost it’s way and you can believe that we have a shot at this, but I do NOT think we do.

you can believe it’s because Romney was weak or not conservative enough or ran a bad campaign..

that’s all poppycock in my opinion.

this country is fat and lazy, and addicted to crap TV and iPHONES... it’s going to take a big fat old crisis to wake American’s up from this laziness.

so we’ll continue to run our guys who talk about liberty, and less government and less freedom and a strong defense. and that’s good. we have to keep offering that alternative.

and they’ll trot out their person who talk about freebies and help from the gub’ment...

and they will WIN !!

until things fall apart... THEN WE HAVE A CHANCE.

And I’ll continue vote for our conservative, and do my best to champion them.. whether they are completely in tune with every single conservative platform or not. because they are better than the alternative, and WF Buckley was right about that, as well.

Santy Claus has come to town and my guess is that he is going to stay more that 4 more years. count on it...

in the long run... and I’m talking 50 to 100 years out, I’m hoping this country wakes up. We’ll be long gone.


125 posted on 11/29/2012 10:45:16 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Chuzzlewit

I hear ya. But what IS the meaning of life?


126 posted on 11/29/2012 10:52:50 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: IbJensen; garyb; Mr. K; Thorliveshere; copaliscrossing; plain talk; TigerClaws; ...

ping


127 posted on 11/29/2012 11:21:44 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN)
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To: presently no screen name
NEWT has America running through his veins and they/GOP/ROMNEY didn’t want him. He campaigned about AMERICA and not just money.

I could not agree more. Warts and all, Newt was the only person in this cycle who could have articulated the real difference between Obama's agenda and that of the rest of America (not to mention the founders). Unfortunately his baggage did him in.

128 posted on 11/29/2012 11:28:52 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Resettozero
Sorry but I hope I did not quote too much to be lawful at Free Republic dot com websight. Flourine

I haven't read the replies yet so this may be redundant but you may post up to 300 words from a site that is "excerpt only", also it is considered a no no to post 300 words of a 301 word article. If you try to post more than 300 words from an excerpt only source, FReeRepublic will auto stop you.

It is also forbidden and I see this a lot from people who should know better, Posting an excerpt then posting the rest of the article in comment #1.

129 posted on 11/29/2012 11:33:28 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: ifinnegan
We need to name names as well.

I will start with one in the conservative radio media: Hugh Hewitt.

As long as we are "naming names" Let's prominently display one mentioned in the article, Ann Coulter.

I bought every book she wrote, in duplicate, until she went hard left for Romney. Never again.

130 posted on 11/29/2012 11:39:45 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: ilgipper
Newt and Santorum would have gotten beat, too.

I don't agree with that but that's what this forum is all about, isn't it?

Of all the primary candidates in the field, I always believed there were only 3 that would not beat Obama and Romney was right at the top of that list of 3. The others were Huntsman and Paul.

Just my opinion.

131 posted on 11/29/2012 11:45:30 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Resettozero

Romney was only derivatively the problem. The Problem is the Republican Party that would prefer to lose an election with one of it’s closetful of bobdoles than win with an enthusiastic conservative. And bobdoles are mostly uninterested in actually being President. They feel they deserve the honor of the Republican Nomination but the Presidency is a hassle. they don’t want it and they run that way. The Party exists to promote the bobdoles to the pinnacle i.e. the Nomination, and no farther.


132 posted on 11/29/2012 11:51:12 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
We need to be UNITED now more than ever if we want to stop Obama’s agenda these next four years.

Unity for unity's sake will never happen. Unity to defeat the boogey man won't either. What is unifying is principle. Standing upon what you believe in. Like-minded folks will join with you. That is why defending principle is the core of Conservatism, and that is why 'pragmatism' and appeasement does great and incalculable harm.

When I say these things in the heat of an election, I am shouted down as a purist or a 1%er. But it is the truth.

This Rah-rah Republican-ism just has to stop. Stand firm or die. There it is.

133 posted on 11/29/2012 11:53:25 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: newheart
>>Unfortunately his baggage did him in.

His baggage isn't as bad as it's made to believe. The ruling class was scared to death of him. SC women did not care about his past wives -they wanted solutions and they have liberal women there too. Coulter started that crap for the insiders (hag!) Rush said of all of the candidates the GOP feared the most could win was Newt. Newt could not be told what to do by the Bushes as far as legislatively. We made a big mistake flaws and all. It was time for the 2 parties to collide. We need that collison. It has to come--now or later.

134 posted on 11/29/2012 11:55:44 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: arthurus
Romney was only derivatively the problem.

Thank you. But not to mince meaning, I believe the writer of this article was speaking derivatively.
135 posted on 11/29/2012 12:00:42 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Friendofgeorge
Also remember that the folks that voted for Obama are every bit as evil as him, anybody that has voted with Dems since 1972 or thereabouts is also anti Christian.

"Evil" and "anti Christian" is part of it but pure ignorance is a big factor. I know people who don't even know what "liberal" or "conservative" means when talking about politics, they don't know that democrat is the party of abortion and many other issues. Hard to believe in this day and age but such ignorance is out there in abundance.

136 posted on 11/29/2012 12:01:21 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: kosciusko51
It is not Bush, Sr. and Bush Jr. One is GHWB and the other is GWB. The press intentionally did this while not referring to Al Gore correctly as Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., son of Senator Albert Arnold Gore, Sr.

When I enlisted many years ago, I learned that I was not a Jr. Not because my name wasn't the same as my father's, it was but because there was no Jr. on my birth certificate.

Following that logic, G.W.B. is a Jr. if it's on his birth certificate, same with the Gores.

In common speech I believe most people use, "Bush Sr. and Bush Jr." to differentiate between the elder and the younger.

137 posted on 11/29/2012 12:16:38 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
And I think the situation will be so bad that Jeb will handily beat whoever the Democrats put up

Nope. Jeb Bush is absolutely unelectable. He won't win. Mark my words, because they will come true as inevitably as the same words I proclaimed for Romney, McCain, Dole, and GHWBII.

Even moreso, because I do believe there will be a 3rd party alternative by then. The GOP is on life support, and they don't even know it, not to mention knowing why.

138 posted on 11/29/2012 12:26:35 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Graybeard58
If you try to post more than 300 words from an excerpt only source, FReeRepublic will auto stop you.

OH NO! I am so sorry. Mr. Resettozero asked me here in Guatemala City if I would do him a favor and post an excerpt from this article on the Free Republic dot com websight for him and I said yes. My JavaScript Kit online word counter shows I excerpted 298 words -- just THREE words shy of being AUTO-STOPPED BY THE FREE REPUBLIC COUNTER! I'm so sorry that I came so close to the edge of peril and will insist that Mr. Resettozero do his own FR posting in the future, regardless how much I like him and that shapely young wife of his. :-) Flourine
139 posted on 11/29/2012 12:32:45 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Graybeard58

You may well be right...and I would have picked either over Mitt.

I felt like the problems Newt had with women in the primary would have translated to a bigger gap in the fall. With Santorum, they would have just used past statements on social issues to use the war on women meme just as effectively. Your argument may well be that either could better differentiate their positions with Obama and better argue conservative ideas. I am 100% with you that conservatism wins most every time it is tried. I just see how these presidential elections have become like a circus side show, and the entire focus is on optics, caricatures of the GOP candidate, etc. It takes a very likable and charismatic GOP candidate to overcome the situation, and I am not sure either could. I would have rather seen us try it, though...that’s for sure.


140 posted on 11/29/2012 1:00:58 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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