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To: exDemMom
Here it is again with the HTML straightened out.

I'm sorry, but where did I say anything about a "godless religious worldview"?

The following ( your words) are the very definition of an education that is solidly and irrefutably godless in its worldview. If Sister Mary Victoria ( my 7th grade nun) were still alive she would be more than happy to straighten you out, if you continued to be confused about this point.

Your exact words:

Unless the subject is specifically religion related, I see no reason religion should be discussed in any class. We don't, for example, discuss integral calculus in English class, or the declension of Latin nouns in intermediate band class. And the only reason you would see something religious about the topics of biology/geology/astrophysics etc., is because you are injecting a religious component to those subjects where none exists

In my and my husband's Catholic schooling there was more than enough reason an opportunity to discuss religion in all of the classes that you mentioned above. In our family's homeschool as well. Gee! How did our family ever get to be so successful? Amazing isn't it?

In my more generous moods when I meet people who claim what you stated above, I assume that this worldview has been soooooo ingrained due to their godlessly secular indoctrination as children that they are like fish in water. They simply can not see the godless secular humanism in which their are swimming. At other times, I conclude that they are being **deliberately* and spitefully dense just to score debating points and to wear down their conversation partner. When their conversation companion walks away in disgust, the secular humanist falsely believes they have "won" the argument.

80 posted on 12/05/2012 5:28:30 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
I'm sorry, but where did I say anything about a "godless religious worldview"?

The following ( your words) are the very definition of an education that is solidly and irrefutably godless in its worldview. If Sister Mary Victoria ( my 7th grade nun) were still alive she would be more than happy to straighten you out, if you continued to be confused about this point.

Your exact words:

Unless the subject is specifically religion related, I see no reason religion should be discussed in any class. We don't, for example, discuss integral calculus in English class, or the declension of Latin nouns in intermediate band class. And the only reason you would see something religious about the topics of biology/geology/astrophysics etc., is because you are injecting a religious component to those subjects where none exists.

In other words, you could not find a single example in all of the 6 or 7 thousand posts I've made on FR where I actually expressed a godless world view. You are making the same false assumption promoted by many of the creationist quacks, that someone who studies science and fails to relate every single word they say on any subject to Jesus is a flaming atheist.

In my and my husband's Catholic schooling there was more than enough reason an opportunity to discuss religion in all of the classes that you mentioned above. In our family's homeschool as well. Gee! How did our family ever get to be so successful? Amazing isn't it?

Finding a reason to inject religion into every discussion is not the same as religion being an integral part of the subject. Did you also inject discussions of the equally relevant religions of Buddhism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, Islamism, Hinduism, etc., into your homeschool calculus or Latin classes?

And since you mention that you are Catholic, I'll point out that the Catholic church (as do most organized denominations) accepts the scientific theory of evolution.

Wikipedia: Catholic Church and evolution

New York Times: Many Catholics Welcome Pope's Statement on Evolution

I have found that most literal creationism is promoted by a bunch of charlatans who care more about separating people from their money than they do about people's souls.

In any case, I am not sure why someone wanted to turn this into a science vs. creationism thread, since the article at the top is about withholding care from babies in order to save money in a socialist health care system. They are completely unrelated topics.

82 posted on 12/09/2012 12:22:37 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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