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To: Windflier

I don’t agree. To begin with, it wouldn’t take much force for the US to subdue a state’s governmental machinery The action would be accompanied by the usual propaganda. The US would not be taking action to protect its own interests, but instead to enforce the rights of American citizens [within the seceding state] to remain Americans. The state politicians responsible for passing an Act of Secession would be cast as traitors, a usurping minority who misused the state government to deprive the state’s citizens of the rights guaranteed them by the US Constitution. Retaking the state’s governmental machinery would be quick, clean and very popular.


57 posted on 11/28/2012 6:16:54 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food

Or put another way:

It wouldn’t take much force for the Marxist to subdue a nation’s Constitutional machinery. The actions would be accompanied by the usual propaganda. The Marxist would be taking action to impose its own interests, and to deprive the rights of American citizens [in the name of fairness] to enact lawlessness. The state politicians responsible for resisting Acts of Socialism would be cast as evil, a usurping minority who misused the state government to deprive the citizens of the rights owed them by the evils of Capitalism. Remaking the nation’s governmental machinery was quick, clean and very popular.

Look - the nation is gone, and going over the cliff into fiscal, cultural and national oblivion, period. You are welcome to deceive yourself and pretend otherwise, but it’s not going to change the math or the certainty of the consequences about to unfold upon this nation.

Any state or people wanting to prevent their demise, would be wise and prudent to separate from the inevitable train wreck and totalitarian nightmare that is hurtling at us at the speed of gravity.

For when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

It’s either that or death at the hand of tyrants.


67 posted on 11/28/2012 7:16:39 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Tau Food
The state politicians responsible for passing an Act of Secession would be cast as traitors, a usurping minority who misused the state government to deprive the state’s citizens of the rights guaranteed them by the US Constitution. Retaking the state’s governmental machinery would be quick, clean and very popular.

You paint a picture of a rogue state legislature which moves to secede without the popular support of the people of their state. I assure you, secession won't happen in any state without the people of that state demanding it.

If the feds should decide to arrest a state legislature for treason, they'd have to do it over the dead bodies of the citizenry. Again - the will to mount a campaign of death and destruction to prevent secession of any state, does not exist.

77 posted on 11/29/2012 7:58:14 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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