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73rd Anniversary of “Gone with the Wind” Premiere nears
Huntington News ^ | November 26, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 11/27/2012 2:16:28 PM PST by BigReb555

“News that Ann Rutherford, who played Scarlett O’Hara’s little sister, died Monday brought tears to the eyes of Connie Sutherland, director of Marietta Gone with the Wind Museum”—June 13, 2012 the Marietta Daily Journal, Marietta, Georgia.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anniversary; dixie; gwtw; margaretmitchell
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To: stanne

An education in American history?


21 posted on 11/27/2012 4:20:05 PM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: annieokie

So true Annieokie


22 posted on 11/27/2012 4:24:03 PM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: txnativegop

Dealing with the problems and realities of TODAY is about all I can even remotely do. - Actually, very few Confederate soldiers or their families owned slaves. If the South fired first at Fort Sumter, South Carolina; it was likely because YA’LL WERE DOWN HEAH!!!

Never you mind, though. The Northeastern cesspool liberal cities of today that have grown out of the “saintly” Union forces and leaders have now given us the Chicago thugocracy we now enjoy. As far as I can see, slavery was not condemned in Scripture; rather the attitudes that the slave was admonished to develop toward his master was considered more important than the “evil” of the slavemaster. (And, NO, I don’t want slavery!) Perhaps Lincoln and the sainted Yankees won’t be so revered in the next life. (Slavery was on its way out anyway due to the industrial advancements. Perhaps Lincoln might have considered this if he’d have been so brilliant. And yep, my great grandaddy was a Confederate soldier, fought at Shiloh and probably at Fort Sumter, too. Probably fired the first shot; BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE DOWN HEAH!!!!


23 posted on 11/27/2012 4:31:39 PM PST by Twinkie (ABORTION is GENOCIDE of Blacks & Hispanics!)
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To: Average Al

as opposed to “today’s” absurd, far fetched “action” movies that that have zero chance of actually happening in real life, or silly childlike animated nonsense..” JEDI’S...LOST ARKS..ETC”...sorry cant into “cartoons”...


24 posted on 11/27/2012 4:41:02 PM PST by basalt (1)
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To: riverss

Got all those covered.


25 posted on 11/27/2012 4:45:28 PM PST by stanne
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To: Twinkie
BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE DOWN HEAH!!!!""""".......

Rofl, nothing like the southern humor or the hospitality and MANNERS. love it.

p.s.: next time make that YOU ALL...as Y'all. lol

26 posted on 11/27/2012 4:47:54 PM PST by annieokie
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To: basalt

It takes a lot of manure to draw millions of movie goers over the years. ;-)


27 posted on 11/27/2012 4:48:13 PM PST by Average Al
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To: stanne; riverss

“Got all those covered.”

That’s what the guy who walked into the important meeting at his church with his fly down thought. Are you sure? Have you really checked and made sure?


28 posted on 11/27/2012 4:53:10 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: varina davis

I absolutely love teaching “The Red Badge of Courage” to high schoolers. Story, theme, literary devices, history, life lessons. Taught Twain’s “Huck Finn” and “The Other Side of War”. Wrote & taught much on Eudora Welty and was good friends with a dear friend of hers.

Read Faulkner when no one else will.

I could go on, but I just don’t get this film’s popularity.

I know I’m missing something, because it is so well-liked by so many whose views I respect. May of whom are not Souterners.

I do love the history lesson and the production, even the actors, esp Vivian Liegh.


29 posted on 11/27/2012 4:56:11 PM PST by stanne
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To: jessduntno

LOL


30 posted on 11/27/2012 4:57:08 PM PST by stanne
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To: varina davis

Thanks. Did you know that Gone With The Wind was actually based somewhat on Margaret Mitchells life, and memories told her by her grandmother of life back then. Rhett Butler was based on her first husband, Red Upshaw, who was a worthless cad but she loved him, other characters were based on friends and relatives.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/margaret-mitchell-american-rebel/biography-of-margaret-mitchell/2043/


31 posted on 11/27/2012 4:59:04 PM PST by annieokie
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To: BigReb555

Forget all the hoopla about true love and chivalry. The movie Gone with the Wind is about the end of the world and what comes after.

Today, it's remembered primarily for its fabulous costumes and the angsty love triangle of Scarlett O'Hara, Rhett Butler, and Ashley Wilkes. The romanticization of the antebellum South has not aged well. But take another look at that name, which offers a radically different way to think about the story.

Gone with the Wind is such a famous movie that it's hard to hear the title as a descriptive phrase. But here's the scrolling introduction:

"There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South... Here in this pretty world Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be see of Knights and the Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it now only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered. A Civilization gone with the wind."

That's right: Gone with the Wind is about the apocalypse.


Gone with the Wind is the original post-apocalyptic epic


32 posted on 11/27/2012 5:10:35 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Rebelbase
Sherman didn't but the Army of the Tennessee contained many rapists in its ranks as did many other Union units. Black females were easy game in areas that large units moved through. One book that does examine this phenomenon at some length is Harry S. Stout's ‘On the Alter of the Nation, a Moral History of the Civil War’. Published by Viking in 2006 the author is no sense a pro-Confederate author such as the Kennedy brothers and hold the Jonathon Edwards Chair in the History of American Religion at Yale. Heavily documented this book should be read by anyone interested in the War Between the States. If the author has a thesis it is as the war progresses it escalates in scale and violence until he draws a picture of a society dangerously out of control seemingly determined to go on killing until no one was left to slay.

Of Sherman's forces the most chilling remarks are addressed on pages 417-418 and focus on the burning of Columbia:
“For obvious reasons Union commentators gave little attention to the stories of black women being raped, but the facts are plain. While officers complained they could do little in practice to prevent the violence. Widespread black illiteracy meant few black women would record their experiences; others were probably too frightened to witness against their Yankee assailants. Enough accounts survive, however, to confirm the ways in which some white soldiers viewed slave women as ‘the legitimate prey of lust”

One white woman privy to the violence described Union soldiers who stripped black women and then ravished them ‘They violated all the women servants publicly and left them almost dead, unable to move”. Other accounts describe similar outrages. On the morning of February 18, 1865 , black women’s naked bodies lay on the streets of Columbia “bearing the marks of detestable sex crimes”. One older slave was raped by seven Yankees with orders to ‘finish the bitch’ she was drowned in a nearby drainage ditch..

Stout comments on the commanders responsibility for these events by noting “”Sherman never issued any direct orders to destroy private property and plunder civilians, let alone to rape slave women. But any efforts at restraint were ineffectual; in any case , it was well known that if Sherman expected excesses anyplace it was Columbia. That expectation amounted to de facto permission in the minds of many. For that Sherman as the commander of Union forces on the scene must take the moral responsibility.”

(Another recent work based on manuscript sources that reports in detail behavior that can only be described as violent and criminal towards literally defenseless civilians is Jacqueline Glass Campbell,’When Sherman Marched North From the Sea’ University of North Carolina Press, 2003.

In Louisiana, where I now live, there are abundant anecdotal accounts of such behavior of similar behavior on the part of personnel in bank's army during the Red River Campaign. The mixed race Creole plantation community in the Cane River country came in for a particular amount of arson, plunder and rapine as the women in the ‘big houses’ were clearly mixed race and considered to be as sexually available to bank's cotton stealer's as the servants and the women in the slave quarters.

Too many Americans including quite a few here seem to believe actions by US military forces are always justified and that our opponents are always satanic demons. As someone whose family was on the receiving end of the casual violence and destructiveness of the Union army I can only say this is one of those comforting illusions that many utilize to excuse the inexcusable.

33 posted on 11/27/2012 5:10:35 PM PST by robowombat
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To: basalt

Probably those who cannot appreciate GWTW were raised on the filthy trashy movies we have today- the ‘F’ word in every sentence, graphic sex in between the violence, explosions and car chases.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 5:14:23 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: robowombat
Wow, robowombaat, well said!
35 posted on 11/27/2012 5:22:17 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: patriot08

Yes, I don’t “get” Gone With the Wind either. What chunks I’ve seen of it is pretty bad. My idea that accounts for its success at the time was that it was in color.


36 posted on 11/27/2012 5:27:51 PM PST by AceMineral (Will work for money.)
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To: BigReb555

In the 1970’s the local Jerry Lewis Cinema was going to be showing Gone With the Wind and my mother didn’t want to let me go because she thought that the movie was too sexy for me (I was 12 at the time).

She had seen the movie when it came out, she was 15 at the time, and she was upset by the sex.

I explained to her that I thought I could handle it and if I felt uncomfortable, I would leave the theater and call her for a ride home

Seriously!! (I made it though, no problem. My mother had “issues”)


37 posted on 11/27/2012 5:37:58 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

I am sorry I missed the sex scenes in GWTW. Maybe I saw only a cut version.


38 posted on 11/27/2012 5:41:33 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jessduntno

I prefer General Robert E Lee’s words

(And I’m a Connecticut Yankee - born and raised)

“It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.”


39 posted on 11/27/2012 5:45:52 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: central_va

Yeah, I don’t remember too many ex scenes except for Rhett carrying Scarlett up the stairs to do the nasty, but we didn’t see that part.


40 posted on 11/27/2012 5:54:27 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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