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Cox and Archer: Why $16 Trillion Only Hints at the True U.S. Debt
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 26, 2012, 6:41 p.m. ET | By CHRIS COX AND BILL ARCHER

Posted on 11/27/2012 7:08:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A decade and a half ago, both of us served on President Clinton's Bipartisan Commission on Entitlement and Tax Reform, the forerunner to President Obama's recent National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. In 1994 we predicted that, unless something was done to control runaway entitlement spending, Medicare and Social Security would eventually go bankrupt or confront severe benefit cuts.

Eighteen years later, nothing has been done. Why? The usual reason is that entitlement reform is the third rail of American politics. That explanation presupposes voter demand for entitlements at any cost, even if it means bankrupting the nation.

A better explanation is that the full extent of the problem has remained hidden from policy makers and the public because of less than transparent government financial statements. How else could responsible officials claim that Medicare and Social Security have the resources they need to fulfill their commitments for years to come?

As Washington wrestles with the roughly $600 billion "fiscal cliff" and the 2013 budget, the far greater fiscal challenge of the U.S. government's unfunded pension and health-care liabilities remains offstage. The truly important figures would appear on the federal balance sheet—if the government prepared an accurate one.

But it hasn't. For years, the government has gotten by without having to produce the kind of financial statements that are required of most significant for-profit and nonprofit enterprises. The U.S. Treasury "balance sheet" does list liabilities such as Treasury debt issued to the public, federal employee pensions, and post-retirement health benefits. But it does not include the unfunded liabilities of Medicare, Social Security and other outsized and very real obligations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; broke; debt; deficit; entitlements; spending
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To: Terry Mross

A large part is that the investment is still perceived to be “safe,” whether you are a foreigner, or not. Another part might be the “it won’t happen to me, it will happen to them”-syndrome.


41 posted on 11/27/2012 12:21:42 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Terry Mross

Barry says “if I have checks, I have money”.


42 posted on 11/27/2012 12:42:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SeekAndFind; Cringing Negativism Network
Cringing Negativism Network wrote:
"RE: Bring back US jobs to America."

SeekAndFind replied:
"Easy to make slogans. HOW do you do it?"

Truth or consequences. We should turn toward what is moral and good (respect for and legalization of whole families, kids and all). Toss the environmentalism and animal-worship. Stop promoting and legalizing vices. Then, we should dump the local regulations against men at work (including tall, strong, young men), first (owner-building, small manufacturing starts). Otherwise, the economic consequences continue. Old business doesn't want to start manufacturing here again, regulates against new, small manufacturing, fears overpopulation, and fears the mythical, environmental end of the world, etc.


43 posted on 11/27/2012 2:30:32 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Lets pause for a second over “imports”.

When was the last time that you could buy a TV made in America? When was the last time that you could find a pair of tennis shoes made in the US? When was the last time that you could find a microwave made in the US?

Our entire economy is now based on imports. We can’t manufacture much of anything...even cellphones.

It’d be nice to reopen the door...but frankly, when you figure up the cost of manufacturing a TV in the US or Taiwan....and there’s a $700 difference between the two same versions, there’s not much to talk about. We priced ourselves out of the mess.

Yeah, our trade dealing is part of the problem but this is a untouchable item. Just like pumping oil out of Texas and thinking it’ll be used in the US, when there’s tankers sitting in the Gulf and ready to transport Texas oil over to Italy.


44 posted on 11/27/2012 2:39:16 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back US jobs to America.

Excellent! The first step is to double the cost of oil.

45 posted on 11/27/2012 3:05:36 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Don’t be obtuse. You don’t pay the tariff on oil unless you buy oil.


46 posted on 11/27/2012 4:10:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Making America more lucrative and inviting to foreign investment, heck for our own companies too, is the only way to grow the economy and jobs.

Government jobs ain’t going to do it


47 posted on 11/27/2012 4:16:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

SS and Medicare are not contractual debts.

They are political promises.

Made by a couple of generations of politicians who ignored the Enumerated Powers, stole the money, and spent it on their own political self-aggrandizement. Every red cent.


48 posted on 11/27/2012 4:35:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Unemployed people draw unemployment which adds to the debt/deficit, should I start talking to you like first grader. Do you really know basic math and economics?


49 posted on 11/27/2012 5:10:35 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Don’t forget, we can double the cost of imported oil and the price of domestic oil will remain unchanged.


50 posted on 11/27/2012 5:14:57 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: central_va
Sure, let's talk basic math, genius. Let's eliminate ALL unemployment compensation tomorrow. What have we done to the budget deficit?

You didn't even read the friggin' article before coming here. You are part of the problem. Get out of the way and let the adults fix it.

51 posted on 11/27/2012 5:18:12 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
What have we done to the budget deficit?

REDUCED IT BY 319 Billion

This is a link, just click here with that mouse thingy

52 posted on 11/27/2012 5:24:20 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
According to this column, the U.S. is $87 trillion in debt. And the "answer" is, "bring jobs back." It would be funny if these numbskulls actually knew what they were talking about.

For the sake of argument (since you are better at scientific notation), how many $100,000.00/year jobs do we need to "bring back?" Assuming that 50% of that 100K goes to the feds. What's 87 trillion divided by 50K? Heck, what is 16 trillion divided by 50K?

53 posted on 11/27/2012 5:27:47 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va
You just took $100B out of a $1.2T budget deficit, and did nothing about the national debt. Congrats.
54 posted on 11/27/2012 5:30:29 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The debt will melt away when the dollar collapses. I am heavily invested in gold so creeps like you are doing me a favor. Free Trade is hastening the fall. Some tariffs and sane trade policies might help but it will never happen. One day I will be rich but not very proud.


55 posted on 11/27/2012 5:35:42 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

When the dollar collapses, you can join the rest of your Democrat friends in blaming everything but the actual cause.


56 posted on 11/27/2012 5:39:44 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va
...so creeps like you are doing me a favor.

Can't let that one slip past, either. What's next, calling me a "teabagger?"

57 posted on 11/27/2012 5:43:07 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

We agree the dollar is toast. Well lets leave it at that.


58 posted on 11/27/2012 5:44:23 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Leave what at what? Like, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about? We can stop there, sure.


59 posted on 11/27/2012 5:48:32 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Ok, so the dollar survives? How so? The only way out is inflation, anyone can see the Govt will take the easy way out. Only an idiot would see it any other way.


60 posted on 11/27/2012 5:52:24 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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