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Elections Do Have Consequences…for the Media
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2012 | Dan Holler

Posted on 11/26/2012 6:17:21 PM PST by Kaslin

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21 posted on 11/26/2012 8:37:36 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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22 posted on 11/26/2012 8:40:47 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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23 posted on 11/26/2012 8:42:19 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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24 posted on 11/26/2012 8:44:42 PM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: John 3_19-21

I wrote this a day or two ago:

I agree we need a different approach. A few thoughts:

1. Actual conservative candidates with courage and a unsurppressable fighting spirit who are willing to fight other Rs on conservative issues and any corruption.

2. Above candidates must be not only ready, willing and able but straining at the leash to attack the leftist MSM and take on election fraud.

3. State Rs need to go after election fraud with guts as someone mentioned above.

Basically no “tactic” will work other than real conservatives, with guts and fighting spirit. It’s a given that the MSM is nothing but the mouthpiece of hardcore leftists/thugs/Dems. So trying to make nice with them or cater to them is a losing tactic.

ANd I would also add that R candidates need to fearlessly articulate exactly what the Dems really mean, what their goals are, how lawless they are, and how destructive. Calling them nice names and being polite is a LOSING TACTIC!


25 posted on 11/26/2012 9:06:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Nice list. .

Sarah in 2008, and Newt this year early on are good examples of how you use live un-filtered events to turn the momentum against the media. Both of them got huge boosts by basically telling the fourth estate to shove it.
26 posted on 11/26/2012 9:28:08 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Stand for something or fall for anything.)
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To: Kaslin
Yes, elections have consequences, but they, as Stalin so wisely noted, are largely consequences determined by those who decided what to report as the results of unverifiable elections. Anyone who believes elections counted by the SEIU in secret, or which counting machines are supported by SEIU employees is being naive, and ignorant.

Our elections make audit trails impossible, and that was done with the relatively quiet complicity of senior members of both parties. Because US elections are unverifiable, their consequences should be treated as would any data collection activity where the data are unknown. Our votes are unknown. When a voter marks a ballot, but oversight of that ballot is lost because, either it is fed into an opaque machine with electro-optical reader with voter choices accumulated by an internal computer, that vote cannot be trusted - it is meaningless. When ballots are filled out - paper ballots are beginning to return as many know our elections are unverifiable - if those ballots are not counted by humans before leaving the observation of the multiparty precinct workers, they cannot be trusted. The count must be made before the ballots are handled in secret. Without that, our ballots are largely managed by Sec. of State employees, most of whom belong to the SEIU, behind closed doors.

Elections are mostly useful as propaganda tools. Reporting, for example, that 69% of US Jews voted for Obama, which is entirely unprovable, helps to discourage and divide different groups. The Christians who today are major supporters of Israel, who have many Holy sites in Israel, and know they will be destroyed if Muslims drive the Jews from Israel, are just one target. Christians wonder if these fools are worth trying to save when they appear unwilling to fight for themselves and their homeland.

When Haaratz, Israel's most liberal major newspaper, reports that about 85% of US citizens living in Israel voted for Romney, and anyone who knows a little about that community knows that many of those dual citizens living in Israel are liberal, and more secular than Jews in the US, the falseness of the reported 69% is obvious - but unprovable because we have no audit trail!.

Elections, like our Constitution, have a different role today than they did until about 30 years ago. Republicans have even accepted a federal court injunction prohibiting Republican, but not Democrat,poll watchers from being near any precinct where race could be an issue in the race. The Carter appointed who made that ruling 31 years ago returns from retirement every year to renew his order. Crony capitalists make money whether they win or lose elections, but today, it is all a charade, and both parties know it.

Pundits aren't comfortable with the unforgiving certainty of science or statistics. Criminal lawyers get a taste with the notion of chain-of-evidence, the notion that made OJ’s conviction impossible because the chain was broken. We have no chain of evidence for votes, and without it our elections are an empty tradition, but not representative of the voters they are supposed to reflect. We have, in effect, one party, and may as well all become Democrats, because they control the reported results for any election. Without paper, and local counts, we have no real elections.

27 posted on 11/26/2012 9:34:13 PM PST by Spaulding
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Let’s face it - the MSM won this election even more than Obama did. We lost - big time. We lost because the MSM beat our guys and gals across the board.

I am convinced that Obama could really go all Hitler/Chavez/Morsi and the MSM would do nothing but make excuses for him. They’d make excuses until the last NY Times reporter got sent to the gulag and then they’d be all like: wow, what happened?!?!

I don’t see how we overcome the media, I just don’t.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 10:19:49 PM PST by jocon307
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To: From The Deer Stand

So true, drop Comcast they own MSNBC, it has been a breath of fresh air not having to hear liberal pundits arguing over Republicans who can’t get a word in edge wise, I love not having cable, it’s liberating!


29 posted on 11/26/2012 11:44:02 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Kaslin

Cancel your cable, pull your kids out of the communist indoctrination centers, cancel newspapers...


31 posted on 11/27/2012 2:57:14 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: JMJJR

Congrats! I did the same 12 years ago.


32 posted on 11/27/2012 3:25:31 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RIghtwardHo; fieldmarshaldj

Fox blows chunks.

Those clowns seemed happy on election day, were they putting on a brave face?


33 posted on 11/27/2012 3:27:10 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: From The Deer Stand
Amen. I stopped watching 5 years ago, only tune in to fox.
34 posted on 11/27/2012 4:15:07 AM PST by gakrak (“If you put the Fed Gov in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.”)
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Amen. I stopped watching 5 years ago, only tune in to fox.
35 posted on 11/27/2012 4:15:29 AM PST by gakrak (“If you put the Fed Gov in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.”)
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To: little jeremiah

agreed and good points.
I said this back in 2008, if we do not go after the media, if we do not name names and show their bias in AD’s etc, call them out on their channels on live cameras things as”why did you not mention or even asked about Libya or even ask as of yet where obama was during these attacks?”

Why are you asking me this when you can;t even ask the President what he was doing during Libya?

There are so many ways we can call out this corrupt group called the media but instead we always run to be cowardly.

If we do not call them out like we did not in 2008, 2012 and then expect another rigged corrupt election which the left will win and I guarantee even some on here will say we have to reach out etc

Sick of this crap and now the 3 stoogest of McCain are now meeting Rice and will says he is a nice woman we will consider her.

I am so sick of all of this crap, either the blue states go on their own way and leave us alone or we get women and men who have balls like Sarah, Col West, Newt etc in power and force these cowards out


36 posted on 11/27/2012 7:04:29 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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