TriHealth fires 150 employees for not getting flu shots: Co. offered shots for free (Cincinnati)

WLWT-TV ^ | November 22, 2012

[2ndDivisionVet]

CINCINNATI — One of Cincinnati’s largest employers fired approximately 150 employees Wednesday for failing to get a required flu shot.

TriHealth offered all of its 10,800 employees free flu shots. Employees had a month to get the flu shot. The deadline was Nov. 16. Employees who did not get the shot were terminated Wednesday, a company spokesperson said...

[DesertRhino]

“Flu kills between 3,000 and 49,000 Americans every year,”

Why yes, i can build that house according to your blueprints. It’ll cost somewhere between 100,000 and 1.6 million when im done.

[who knows what evil?]

You’re next. Next year you’ll be on the list. Probably just an oversight this year.

That's right...if you have been contracted to trim the hedges on the grounds of hospitals in Red Hampshire, Washington, and some other states; flu shot. Refilling the vending machines? Flu shot.

"You're next", indeed.

[driftdiver]

yes I am a nice boss, I pay very well. Most of my folks make more than I do.

We don’t work onsite much. We’re those evil consultants who come onsite for 3 days and then send a big bill.

[exDemMom]

Me too. I got the shot twice over a span of four years and got the flu within 2-3 days of each shot. I was told each time, “It is absolutely impossible for you to get flu from this shot”.

Mmm hmmmm. I have had the flu only once since then and it was the Asian flu, which the shot wouldn’t have helped anyway.

I would refuse the shot as well. You just never know where it is being manufactured (China anyone?) or what they are putting in it. The people pushing it will freely say that it is a crapshoot as to what type flu it will cover.

It *is* impossible to get the flu from a flu shot, since all of the viruses in the shot are dead. If you got the flu a few days after getting the shot, it was because you were already exposed, or you encountered a flu that wasn't in the shot. It takes about 2 weeks for the flu shot to "kick in" and start protecting you.

The flu shots we receive are NOT being made in China. They are made in the US, Canada, or Europe. You can look it up yourself at the FDA website.

The reason that formulating the flu vaccine is a "crapshoot" is because it is impossible to know, 6 months ahead of time, which of the many flu viruses will be epidemic in the upcoming flu season. Scientists have to look at quite a bit of data and make their best predictions. It's like predicting the weather--sometimes, they are wrong. Still, the vaccine saves millions from getting sick each year.

[Black Agnes]

Those will be going the way of the dodo. Obamacare mandates states achieve 90% vax rates for ALL age groups or federal funding (medicaid) will be withheld. Enjoy it now while you can. Mandatory vaccination (mandated and simultaneously indemnified is a GREAT business model!) is one reason big pharma supported obamacare. You and I will be receiving 5 or more vaccines in ‘14. With at least 2 of them being talked about as annual shots. And the rest of them being ‘updated’ every 3-5 years.

[driftdiver]

The difference being the number of deaths from flu varies year by year.

[who knows what evil?]

They’re also mumbling about requiring pneumonia, shingles and meningitis vaxs of everyone as well. TDaP has been discussed too. Your employees might be getting five vaccines.

OMG! I am actually starting to look forward to these 'death panels'...

[exDemMom]

This year's vaccine has two B strains and one A strain, IIRC.

This year's vaccine contains H1N1 pandemic, H3N2 Victoria strain, and influenza B Wisconsin (Yamagata). The full strain names are here.

[driftdiver]

Personally I think the whole vaccine program is a huge brain control experiment. /s

[exDemMom]

Quite frankly, the way they are pushing these things, and making the flu out to be the next “black death plague” on the ads on tv and radio it really makes me wonder what ELSE is in these shots other than “protection” from the flu.

The flu shots contain a specific quantity of dead flu virus, a buffer, and (if it comes from a multi-dose vial) a preservative. You may remove your tin-foil hat now.

[who knows what evil?]

We’re those evil consultants who come onsite for 3 days and then send a big bill.

I DO love capitalism in this case...

[Black Agnes]

Vancouver researcher finds flu shot is linked to H1N1 illness

Researchers, led by Vancouver's Dr. Danuta Skowronski, an influenza expert at the B.C. Centre for Disease Control, noticed in the early weeks of the pandemic that people who got a flu shot for the 2008-09 winter seemed to be more likely to get infected with the pandemic virus than people who hadn't received a flu shot. Five studies done in several provinces showed the same unsettling results. But initially research outside Canada did not, and the effect was dismissed as a "Canadian problem," a problem with the flu vaccine used in Canada. But a new study suggests the findings were real.

China prepares for big entry into vaccine market

China Prepares for Big Entry into Vaccine Market/a>

[DesertRhino]

If you take the shot, you’ll be fine, right? If i get the flu, you can laugh at me. But people with a flu are no threat to the ones that get the shot, right? (except in the way that you not exercising daily, might affect me when you miss work due to worsening health)

But aside from the argument that allows you to dictate every detail of my diet, hobbies, and activities, my not taking a shot affects none of the immunized people.
SO why the messianic zeal to force unwilling people to get a shot?
Do PR campaigns, beg, convince, incentivize, reward. But the vaccination crowd is in unfortunate love with the coercive power of government.

Much of their zeal is in their effort to convince themselves of the wisdom of their position, they must turn on the ones who do not agree.

[who knows what evil?]

Those will be going the way of the dodo. Obamacare mandates states achieve 90% vax rates for ALL age groups or federal funding (medicaid) will be withheld. Enjoy it now while you can. Mandatory vaccination (mandated and simultaneously indemnified is a GREAT business model!) is one reason big pharma supported obamacare. You and I will be receiving 5 or more vaccines in ‘14. With at least 2 of them being talked about as annual shots. And the rest of them being ‘updated’ every 3-5 years.

Those of you in the stock market; pay attention.

[memyselfandi59]

I have MS, I didn’t get it after a flu shot, but it did present itself within a few months after getting the Hep B vaccine series(I was working in the health field back in the mid-90’s) and Hep B vaccine had become a requirement.

Since MS, I had the flu shot a couple times, and had a pneumonia vaccine, and each time I’d have a vaccine, I’d have an exacerbation. Coincidence, maybe...and only anecdotal, but my neuro said “No more vaccines for you” and that was years ago, I took her advice, and I’ve never gotten the flu.

[exDemMom]

I will also add that I suffer from allergies this time of year (late fall through winter). At least once a year I’ll get an allergy attack so severe that it very much feels like a cold or flu – the sudden onslaught of uncontrollable sneezing, runny nose accompanied by deep body aches, fever, chills and fatigue. I feel like I’ve been hit by a freight train and probably look like it. The last time this happened my boss told me (pleaded with me) to go home. The only way I know that it’s not a cold or the flu is that the symptoms completely disappear the next day.

I get that, too. In fact, I can never tell if I have an allergy or a cold. Looking up the symptoms is no help, either, since they are identical.

Anyway, thanks for trying to help educate people. I see so much misinformation in these threads that sometimes, I just want to throw my hands up in despair. But then I think, if no one tries to whittle away at the mountains of misinformation, then the forces of quackery win. So I keep plugging away, trying to educate people.

[exDemMom]

Too late for my cousin Rosalee, she died a long,lingering death from this horrible disease, along with thousands of others, mostly children.

Thank God for the polio vaccine, it is beginning to look like this disease may be eradicated within the next few years. My mother-in-law had to wear a brace her whole life because her leg was weakened by polio when she was a child. She was one of the lucky ones. I'm sorry for your cousin.

[Black Agnes]

Well, those and a few more:

Vaccine Excipient & Media Summary - Excipients Included in U.S. ...

They also include bits of whatever culture they were grown in (yeast, eggs, dead babies) because you can't entirely remove them via any purification process. Also the live virus versions contain whatever microbes the culture it was grown in might contain. Look up 'SV40 and polio vaccine'. Also 'Pig Wasting Virus' and rotavirus vaccine'. Probably more we haven't identified yet.

[exDemMom]

Now, extrapolate that forward to 2012, with ubiquitous air travel connecting all parts of the globe, and a much larger population, concentrated in much larger cities. A new pandemic would spread faster, and could potentially kill hundreds of millions, or even billions of people.

We were very lucky with the 2009 pandemic, in that it was a fairly mild virus and "only" about half a million people died. A flu as virulent as the 1918 flu would have been devastating.

[ozaukeemom]

I worked as a medical receptionist 17 years ago and we had to have all sorts of shots and tests as a requirement of employment. It was to protect patients and employees. I am phobic when it comes to needles, but, I needed the job. I cannot take anything with sulphur, but any others are fair game. That said, I now avoid them. But, I am not working there now, either.