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To: Kaslin
The way we win is by drawing our supporters out to vote for us. Campaigns are too late for detailed policy issue debates ~ rather, you use the policies the other side is weak on, or does not wish to discuss, and you beat them about the head and shoulders so their own people lose faith in their candidates and don't show up.

Basically, get your own side whooping it up, and lead the other side to be down in the mouth about it all.

Romney, and before him McCain, and Daddy Bush, Nixon once, Ford, Dewey, Willkie, and some others got the idea you could win over the other side ~

So they left their own peeps stranded on the beach.

Republicans win when they draw out their Socons, Fiscons, Right to Lifers, Traditionalists, TEAPartiers, Defense, and Neocons. They lose when they abandon all the issues those core consituencies wanted acted on.

3 posted on 11/24/2012 4:27:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Kaslin
Another good point:

When you consider those numbers [85% percentage of Christians among blacks and Hispanics] and the fact that black and Hispanic voters are still on board with Obama after the economic beating they've taken in his first term, it suggests that the GOP has a better opportunity to reach them on social issues than we do on economic issues.

This is very true. Unfortunately, GOP officialdom won't let candidates, even good ones, focus on these isssues with any group, but it could be very persuasive if they did. People at the bottom of the economic heap don't really understand economic policies and the effect they have on their lives, so they're very nervous about any suggestion of changes to those policies, bad as they are. But they all know about their personal and family lives and how they'd like to live them and the environment in which they'd like to live, so this could be an attractive message.

Of course, the GOP made NO effort to reach either blacks or Hispanics. Romney would not let Paul Ryan go to the urban areas (mostly black) and talk to them, even though Ryan had a plan for doing this. And it might have been convincing, if not enough to win this time, at least to get them thinking for next time.

As for Hispanic voters, I read one column by a Hispanic GOP member who said that the Obama workers trolled his neighborhood constantly, had events and appearances...and when he called the GOP to ask about the schedule for GOP activities, he found out there wasn't one. The GOP seems to have limited itself to sending out a round of campaign flyers from national headquarters and did nothing to get out and contact people. And people won't vote for you if they never see you or feel you don't even care enough to tell them about yourself.

Romney's whole strategy depended on writing off large portions of the electorate in the belief that this would convince some mythical white moderate group to vote for him, so he wrote off blacks, Hispanics and white conservatives.

8 posted on 11/24/2012 4:45:59 AM PST by livius
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To: muawiyah

The way for a conservative party to win...is to stop nominating liberals as their standard bearer.

Why do we allow the major networks to continue to pick our candidates???

Why????


9 posted on 11/24/2012 4:51:34 AM PST by kjo (+)
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To: muawiyah

You and I don’t agree often. But that was an excellent post.


21 posted on 11/24/2012 6:31:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: muawiyah

Republicans ceded the number one issue this election - Obamacare - back in March. And they are surprised they lost?


24 posted on 11/24/2012 6:46:45 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: muawiyah

>>The way we win is by drawing our supporters out to vote for us.>>

I’m in NY State. I very much wanted a Romney sign. There was no listing for a phone for a Repub election office, none for the city. In short, there was no way to get a sign. In past elections, there were Repub offices for volunteers and to hand out signs. Why not this past election?


27 posted on 11/24/2012 7:06:15 AM PST by kitkat
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