Thanksgiving Celebrates Our 'Original Sin,' 'Views Virtually Identical To Nazis,' Prof Preaches

CNSNews ^ | 11/22/2012

[Altura Ct.]

Forget all that turkey, stuffing and pumpkin pie, today should be a day of fasting and atonement for American “sin.” That’s according to Robert Jensen, a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin. Jensen, known for his hard-left politics, also calls Thanksgiving a “white-supremacist holiday.”

Jensen’s opinion piece “No Thanks for Thanksgiving,” appeared on the far-left, Soros-connected website Alternet on Thanksgiving eve. In it, he wrote how Native Americans suffered because of the “European invasion of the Americas.” He went on to compare the Founding Fathers to Nazi Germany. “How does a country deal with the fact that some of its most revered historical figures had certain moral values and political views virtually identical to Nazis?” he asked.

According to Jensen, Thanksgiving is “at the heart of U.S. myth-building. “But in the United States, this reluctance to acknowledge our original sin -- the genocide of indigenous people -- is of special importance today,” he explained.

Jensen has a long career in both working journalism and academia, including work as a copy editor at The St. Paul Pioneer Press and the St. Petersburg Times, as well as “volunteer editing and writing for the Texas Triangle, Austin (weekly statewide lesbian/gay paper).”

This wasn’t the first time Jensen has bashed America. He does so on a regular basis. Other Alternet pieces include headlines like “The Painful Collapse of Empire: How the ‘American Dream’ and American Exceptionalism Wreck Havoc on the World” or “What White People Fear.”

Alternet is part of the George-Soros-supported Media Consortium. It is one of 58 left-wing media operations that aim to create a progressive “echo chamber.”

[RobbyS]

Those who reject, neglect the God of Israel will inevitably return to the worship of the gods of nature. Lewis Mumford pointed out that the Enlightenment was a new form of worship of the Sun God. The Masons even adopted the forms of worship of the ancient gods. Gibbon worshiped the Rome of its Gold Age, and Napoleon famously posed as Augustus Caesar, to whom he bore a striking physical resemblence. Mussolini and Hitler were both tyrants whose iconography was basically classical, Roman and Germano-Roman.

[Gene Eric]

The United States is not a perfect nation, but the best nation nonetheless.

To you commies that wish to disparage our heritage, ESAD as soon as possible. Thanks!

[RobbyS]

I suggest you do a little investigations. Until the 19th Century, Europeans and Englishmen constantly referred to the forests if America, Those forests covered the continent almost from waters edge to what is now eastern Illinois , and it was said that an adventuresome squirrel could travel from tee to tree to central Illinois without touching the grounds. These were not the trees we see today but huge trees that had been growing since the end of the Ice Age. The same covered the Appalachians for their full length. The climate was strange to the English, and the crops they grew ill-adapted to the new lands. If you read Bradford’s journal, you can get a sense of what the Pilgrims saw when they reached America. We have utterly transformed the landscape since then. You can also get a copy of John White’s descriptions of the Indians of Carolina and how they lived. Necessarily, their way of life was far more sophisticated than one is want to believe, and of course appropriate to the land they lived on.

[driftless2]

I'm talking about the Indian population north of the Rio Grande. The Indian population of central America was substantially higher than that of the land above it because it could support larger agricultural efforts. The Indians north of the Rio Grande lived in a land that was either too dry or too forested to support large-scale agricultural efforts that could have supported large cities/settlements and populations.

There is no evidence of any permanent settlements i.e. cities in North America like that in central America under the Aztecs. Leftist historians dispense with the truth in order to support their twisted vision that the Indians of the Americas all lived in perfect harmony with nature until the evil Europeans came along. The truth was the opposite: the Indians of the Americas had segments of their populations who just as cruel, warlike, and rapacious as Europeans or other peoples of the world.

Look at the Mongols. American Indians are descendants of the Mongols who invaded Europe and southern Asia (not the other way around)slaughtering millions and leaving no cultural improvements in their wake...just death and misery. At least the Indians of the Americas contributed some wonderful vegetables to the world. But they also contributed tobacco which has killed multi-millions.

Again, the hard truth is that the Indians above the Rio Grande were small in number. Not more than a few million. If there were numbers substantially larger than that, unbiased historians would have published that fact. Every time I read stories purporting to show the populations above the Rio Grande around ten-twenty million, they're based on sheer speculation and not anything resembling hard data i.e. facts. The simple facts are: no large cities and settlements; no large Indian populations.

[driftless2]

"sorry state"

Many Indian reservations that have legalized gambling are now doing extremely well economically. The Ho-Chunk tribe of Wisconsin, close to where I live, has casinos that rake in millions annually. But there are Indian tribes in Wisconsin that do not do so well. There is one county in Wisconsin (Menominee) that is part of the Menominee Indian tribe. It is the poorest county in Wisconsin and has the worst health rates.

[RobbyS]

The Indians left significant constructions in the four corners area, structures which abased on sophisticated astronomical knowledge. Theer were about a thousand years ago, a large concentration of people in the vicintiy of St.Louis based on agriculture. Such things did not last ,but they existed at one time or another. Most of the Indian nations east of the Mississippi depended on the cultivation of corn, and the white found huge fields on either side the the Ohio. This was supplemented by hunting, and it is speculated that the reason why the population did not grow was a lack of meat animals and a subsequent lack of protein, so that when an area did grow, it soon reached a limit. The English found a significant population in the Chesapeake area, and organized un the Powhatten into a confederacy.
The first settlers existed by trading with the Indians for their corn surplus, but as John Smith tells us, because the Stllers ran out of food, they had to resort to raiding the indians for what they would not trade.

[driftless2]

Yes, but how much is a "significant population?" I've read a number of articles about the Indian population of the country above the Rio Grande. Some revisionist, i.e.leftist historians, for obvious purposes try to claim the population numbered as much as 20 million. They have absolutely no proof for wild estimates like that. The fact is if there were definite proof of larger populations than a few million, there would have been plenty of historical facts even if the Indians had no written language. They check things like burial places and evidences of organized communities i.e. towns and cities which would allow for larger numbers. They simply haven't found any.

Below the Rio Grande was different because the Mayans and the Aztecs had actual cities and other organized manifestations of cultures with sizable populations. Not true in America above Mexico.

[RobbyS]

A few million at which time? The Indians greatly outnumbered the whites along the east coast for many years, and the effect of disease among indians in direct contact with whites is part of the folklore. Cahokia is the only place we know about that had a large contentration of people, and that was about 100,000. The mound culture was about on the same level as the pre-historic Briton cultures, and evidence is that like these early Europeans trade occured over thousands of miles. Now of course, all the nonsense about the indians being in harmony with nature has no more basis than their adaptation to local conditions and their religious beliefs, which put so much stress on dreams. War was as much a feature of tribal lives as it was in the old world. The truth lies somewhere in the middle, because Europeans who read about the indians through reports from the News World were inclined to sensationalize and let their imaginations run wild. The notion that the Indians were somehow connected with the Lost Tribes of Israel was rife up until the 19th century linguist finally put paid to the notion that Indian languages had any connection to ancient Hebrew. IAC, can any such phantasies be any more bizarre than those of Rousseau, and his notions of the purity of the primitive life?

[babyfreep]

I have one of those, too. Here’s his “Happy Thanksgiving” post -

“Wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving, in the spirit of the holiday....and not the sordid history.”

Communists are working on removing our holidays, our traditions and our history incrementally with education and infiltration. They even told us this would happen and it did and is. Christmas, Independence Day and Thanksgiving are the big ones - those have to be changed or viewed as evil to be shunned. The rest like Veteran’s Day and Memorial Day, etc will just be played down and soon viewed as nothing more than “Hallmark” holidays.

I guess “Labor Day” will always be OK with them.

[Albion Wilde]

A few years back this dirtbag abandoned his wife and kids and moved in with his boyfriend.

To paraphrase Lenny Bruce, "They bettah off."

[Albion Wilde]

The English found a significant population in the Chesapeake area, and organized un the Powhatten into a confederacy.

There were also plentiful Leni Lenape (Delaware) indians in the Philadelphia-Delaware settlements. Philadelphia's map is full of Indian names, such as Conshohocken, Wissahickon, Moyamensing, Shackamaxon, etc.

[Albion Wilde]

Your interesting posts about native American life are a surprise bonus on this thread that started with a lefty nutbag’s toxic screed. Thanks!

[driftless2]

"full of Indian names"

So is my territory----Wisconsin and the upper midwest. That doesn't mean millions of Indians lived here.

[RobbyS]

The tendency was historically to minimize their numbers. Of course, today, it is almost impossible to reconstruct the environment in which they lived, and hence the ecology that sustained them. They did not exist in great numbers but in significant numbers.