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1 posted on 11/22/2012 11:09:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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The dirty secret is there are a lot of people that want the economy to fail, having everyone else being miserable makes them happy.


2 posted on 11/22/2012 11:11:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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President Cloward-Piven’s only goal is to “overwhelm the system” so he can replace it with a peoples’ paradise.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 11:12:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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Let them OWN it and orce them to EAT it!

EBT & SNAP for everyone!


4 posted on 11/22/2012 11:17:31 AM PST by GraceG
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Marx-Engels clearly needed to eliminate the rich AND the poor by any means and it was necessary for there system to work.

It wasn't put like this in the communist manifesto but it was expressed many times in their writings.

6 posted on 11/22/2012 11:22:57 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Research the damage done by the luxury tax in the 1990 tax reform bill the Bush 41 signed.


7 posted on 11/22/2012 11:25:44 AM PST by Parmy
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Collectivism does not concern itself with the health of an economy or the wellbeing of people. It concerns itself with the consolidation of the machine.


9 posted on 11/22/2012 11:27:30 AM PST by lurk
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And the CBO said obummercare was going to save billions.


10 posted on 11/22/2012 11:27:54 AM PST by woodenickel
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Marxists/socialists are linear thinkers. They don't realize that money taken from the wealthy isn't going to come out of their mattresses...it is going to come out of investment in the economy.

The economy will contract in DIRECT proportion to the amount removed...and then, to add insult to injury, there will be the multiplier affect which means that a downward spiral in economic activity will have been created (i.e. the downward spiral will have momentum).

11 posted on 11/22/2012 11:28:06 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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...raising taxes on the rich has no negative economic effect.

Anyone who really believes this is an idiot, pure and simple.

12 posted on 11/22/2012 11:30:52 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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More trash that ideas won’t work from “Pharaoh-Bamma, just Tax the Rich.”


13 posted on 11/22/2012 11:39:35 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Although ultimately of course whether a new company continues growing and creates self-sustaining jobs is a function of customers’ ability and willingness to pay for the company’s products, not the entrepreneur or the investor capital. What good are the tax breaks if they just go straight into the bank (where it either sits and earns interest) or get invested overseas or in companies that already have strong demand to sell products and create jobs ?

The company’s customers are who buy the company’s products that in turn creates the need for the employees to produce, sell, and service those products. If those customers go broke by tax policies that reward “the 1%” at the expense of everyone else, the demand for the company’s products will collapse. And the jobs will disappear, regardless of what the entrepreneur does.


17 posted on 11/22/2012 11:44:35 AM PST by erlayman
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Whenever the Democrats chime up with “tax the rich”, the only rebuttal should be that

“Hating and hurting other people won’t make their life any better. Democrats have long hated and tried to hurt people for their race, for their religion, and for just about every other reason. But it never, ever, either takes away their pain, or improves their lives in any way.

“So Democrats, stop hating people, stop trying to hurt people. Government can’t make your life any better, only you can. You could hate and kill every other person in the world, and you would still be miserable inside. They are not the problem. You are. But you can change yourself, even if you can’t change the world. Stop hating, stop trying to hurt people.”


19 posted on 11/22/2012 11:46:34 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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May be a correct statement that it won't effect the economy much in 2013. The economy stinks right now so a bit more stink won't matter a great deal initially. 2014 would be a different matter. Most measures of the economy are historic and as the funds are siphoned out of the private sector throughout the coming years the damage will be quite obvious.
21 posted on 11/22/2012 12:13:21 PM PST by JIM O
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Sorry Suzan - not a racist remark, just a truthful one.

If you are associated with the Obamadork you are at best a bimbo, and most probably a felon/cretin who’s never had (nor ever could hold) a real job.

And....

You are indeed associated with the Obamadork.

Love it, live it, you ignorant s......


24 posted on 11/22/2012 12:29:24 PM PST by Da Coyote
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No one will even begin to grasp the essential nature of the Obama regime until logic is thrown out the window and every bit of news - bar none - is considered in the extent to which events contribute to Obama’s Marxist Revolution.

That is the ultimate goal, whether it “contributes to the ecomony” or - infinitely more likely - drives the United States to its knees.

Any and all other considerations are, at best, peripheral.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 12:47:45 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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But what I also want to make sure is that our tax system is fair."

"Fairness" is not objective, what is fair to one is not EVER exactly the same to another. Yet as a feeling it is a powerful rhetorical and political tool. No one can define it but everyone feels it and self-interprets it. Hitler and many Germans thought the Jews were unfairly benefitting during post WW1 and felt the need to do something about it.

Personally, I feel that a consistent appeal to 'fairness' is the mark of a failure who is avoiding the facts. President Obama in this past campaign had little to run upon except how unfair his opponent was in wealth and skin hue. Our fellow citizens, urged on by the liberal media, chose him for re-election. I fear that subjective fairness will cost us dearly over the next 4 years.

26 posted on 11/22/2012 12:57:11 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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Why increase taxes on the rich at all? Answer: It's a matter of "fairness."

For egalitarians, equality is the fundamental moral value and, therefore the standard of good and evil. This requires a new definition of justice which is now defined as fairness.Men's differences though real, are not morally relevant.And the negative consequences of this new morality and justice are not important.What is important is equality as an end in itself.

27 posted on 11/22/2012 1:15:17 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Obama explained: "Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness (emphasis added). We saw an article today which showed that the top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year -- $29 billion for 50 individuals. And part of what has happened is that those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That's not fair. And what I want is not oppressive taxation. I want businesses to thrive, and I want people to be rewarded for their success. But what I also want to make sure is that our tax system is fair."

Don't believe I have ever seen a triple talker before. Somebody who is for something, against something and have no opinion... all at the same time.

30 posted on 11/22/2012 2:49:48 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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Fairness at the expense of prudent economic consequence is malfeasance. Malfeasance leads to impeachment.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 2:56:22 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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Margaret Thatcher had an answer for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw


33 posted on 11/22/2012 3:53:04 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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