Posted on 11/22/2012 4:50:18 AM PST by marktwain
seems to me this guy did, the dog was a foot away when he shot. should he wait until he has a few muscles removed for the dog to chew on?
Boxers are well-known as guard dogs and have been used by police and MIL for attack. They aren’t prominent in those positions, but it’s true. They also descend directly from fighting and big-game hunting dogs. It’s in their blood.
Even a Labrador can be vicious or just overprotective. When you’re being charged you don’t rationalize on breed type.
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And the dog was a foot away when he died -- which means that the dog had stopped charging and was standing barking or growling at him.
He's 63 years old and that has never happened to him before??? But now all of a sudden at 63 dogs that do that to him have to be shot???
If the noise from the discharge of the gun sent the second dog running away, the same would have probably worked for the first without shooting him.
And I've never known a dog yet who didn't respect a kick to the midsection or a walking stick across the face.
Something's not right in this guy's judgment. And for gunowners to claim him as a hero for their cause is foolish and smells of desperation.
Control your dog and it will be fine, period. You expect other people to risk injury in order to protect your property. Property you don’t care enough about to care for properly.
How would a stranger know anything about the behavior of any dog?
What you're attempting to say is that no Boxer has ever attacked anyone in the entire history of the breed and this just isn't the case. You're letting your sentimental attachment blind you to the truth.
For example, Dogs That Attacked 18-Month-Old Boy Euthanized:
Four Boxers that belonged to his grandparents attacked Chance Walker Jr. at his home near Lake Worth late Monday afternoon.
For Worth Animal Control, which has a contract agreement with Tarrant County, took the Boxers into custody Monday.
This is not an isolated case. A simple search of Google for dog attacks by boxers turns up countless other examples. (See: Google Search: dog attack, boxer
Such as, Marauding dogs attack 5 in Everett:
Police and Animal Control are investigating the owner of the two dogs, according to police spokesman Officer Aaron Snell. City spokeswoman Kate Reardon said the owner had been required to fit both dogs with muzzles after an earlier attack.
In the first attack on Saturday, officers were called to the 1300 block of Lombard Avenue around 6:30 a.m. after a 44-year-old man suffered bites to his legs and back, according to Snell.
The victim told officers that the two dogs crossed the street and attacked him. The attack was interrupted by a passer-by who scared the dogs away, police said. (Ed. Sound familiar?)
The victim was hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, Snell said.
Police tracked down the dogs, a female pit bull named Mia and a female boxer named Jewels, and witnessed one of the animals kill a cat. One officer was bitten on the leg by one of the dogs when he tried to coax the animal into the back of his patrol car, Snell said.
"The dogs were wagging their tails and were all friendly, but when he got in close proximity they started snarling," Snell said of the officer.
You're making a lot of conjecture based upon information that was not reported in the story.
The simple fact is that this man felt like he was danger and he was under no obligation to wait to see what the dogs charging at him from across the street would do once they reached where he was standing.
Really? Do you have a source for this information?
The guy with the loaded fanny pack needs to have a leash put on him or his wife shouldn't let him out.
He wasn't a danger to anyone. He was defending himself against charging dogs.
If he were the dangerous individual you make him out to be, why didn't the police arrest him for reckless endangerment for the negligent discharge of his firearm inside this 'safe middleclass neighborhood'?
Because he didn't shoot at a moving target charging at him which would have likely sent the bullet astray thus recklessly endangering the neighborhood.
Instead he shot down at a relatively stationary target a foot away from his feet that was barking at him -- a much safer and guaranteed shot.
Ugh!
Update.
That dog is AGAIN wandering the neighborhood.
Owner’s nowhere to be found.
No collar, no tags.
Animal control has been called.
Or, the shooting was justified.
Instead he shot down at a relatively stationary target a foot away from his feet that was barking at him -- a much safer and guaranteed shot.
You keep writing this without a single cite to support this assertion. Please show where the dogs stopped a foot short of Gross and stood there barking at him.
Just because you're a terrible shot who couldn't hit a charging dog doesn't everyone shares your shortcomings. For all we know, Gross was a crack shot.
Or, because in the eyes of the police, the shooting was justified.
Because he didn't shoot at a moving target charging at him which would have likely sent the bullet astray thus recklessly endangering the neighborhood.
You keep writing this without a single cite to support this assertion. Please show where the dogs stopped a foot short of Gross and stood there barking at him.
Just because you're a terrible shot who couldn't hit a charging dog doesn't everyone shares your shortcomings. For all we know, Gross was a crack shot.
From: Charlotte man guns down charging dog:
"It sounds funny because it's a dog, but dogs are human too. They're just like people and he was a true man's best friend." says Bustamante.
Oh, my! Not quite the bleeding-heart liberal I'd envisioned you to be.
Can you post a source, please?
FRegards,
No source available. Just what’s happening in my family’s and my life at the moment.
A continuation of the tale from post #58.
Right here in the story:
"Gross said he was across the street and the two dogs came charging towards him. He said he yelled for the dogs to get back, but they kept coming. Fearing for his safety, Gross told deputies he reached into his fanny pack and withdrew a .22 caliber pistol and fired one shot killing one of the dogs; the second dog fled.
How wide was that street for him to have the time to 1]notice the dogs charging toward him, 2]then yell at the dogs to get back [get back???], 3]then realize that they were not going to "get back", 4]then reach back and unzip his fanny pack and pull out his gun and grasp it properly so as to not shoot his own foot off, and then take careful aim at a moving dog and shoot him.
How long did it take him to do all of that????
How long did it take the dog to charge across the street???
How wide was that street???
Unless that dog stopped off at the Quick Shop for some bisquits along the way, he would have been on top of fanny pack man before he had a chance to spit out those words: "get back". And those are his words.
I thought so. There is nothing in this news story, or others about the incident which says the dogs stopped short and stood there barking at the man as you're asserting. The eyewitness to the incident says the dogs were barking and charging the man, which is enough justification for him to fear for his safety and he took reasonable means to keep himself from being harmed by these dogs.
Everything else you've written is pure supposition on your part.
The bottom line is that the dogs' owner turned the dogs out unleashed and unsupervised and they charged at someone who was minding his own business and the end result is one was justifiably shot and killed.
End of story.
Gotcha. Thanks.
Out of curiosity, at what point is a human justified in shooting an apparently aggressive dog?
Should the human wait until the dog actually attacks and the human is harmed?
On the flip side, at what point is a human justified in shooting an apparently aggressive human?
Should the human wait until he is physically harmed by the aggressor?
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