Posted on 11/21/2012 9:44:11 AM PST by Perdogg
Can I call ‘em or what?
On Monday, I wrote regarding the question posed to Marco Rubio about when the Earth was created, The “crazy-ing” of Marco Rubio begins:
Marco Rubio is on the short list of Republican presidential contenders for 2016. Of course, that’s a long way away, so who knows if he remains on the short list.
So Rubio’s a target even more so than in the past couple of years. Every question in every interview is a potential land mine. There can be no off-the-cuff remarks.
The motus operandi will be to “crazy” him, the long-standing tactic used against Republicans and particularly people like Rubio who sprang from the Tea Party movement (something he doesn’t wear on his sleeve very much) or who occupy that most reviled place in the mainstream media, religious Christians.
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“I believe in God and I believe in science. But science does not disprove or displace God. Science is one of God’s greatest creations. God is our greatest scientist. Helluva mathematician, engineer, chemist, designer, planner, programmer, artist, philosopher, writer, healer, too. He undoubtedly knows a lot about planets, gravity, weather, etc. He created all the theories scientists love to wrestle with but cannot solve. And He alone knows the absolute truth of each and every one.
By the way, He also created gravity. Didn’t want those down under to fall off the planet..”
Never read/heard anywhere/from anyone , the concept of science and God put together in words and this beautifully stated. Just WOW!
Pure nonsense.
I am Jewish and believe in God.
I expressed nothing anti-God.
I merely stated that I believe in science, too. People who believe they are mutually exclusive are not dealing in reality.
God gave us brains. The idea that we should not use them seems anti-Conservative to me.
The Leftwing media deserves a figurative kick in the teeth.
Know which companies are paying their salaries. Start with Comcast and Disney; two companies I happen to respect. Sadly, they’re facilitating vile journalism.
“I expressed nothing anti-God.”
Well that is a matter of viewpoint. You called Bible believing conservative Christians “morons” because they don’t hold to your exact viewpoint of science. IF, those folks are the true/best followers of God....THEN you are anti-God. To oppose His Children/folowers is to oppose Him.
“I merely stated that I believe in science, too. People who believe they are mutually exclusive are not dealing in reality.” Be honest...you called them “morons” because they place scripture above what is called “science.” My profession is intimately conected to useful application of “science” but I still never let it compromise the truth of scripture. I chose this path, no one forced or tricked me down it. I am formally educated in biological science from strictly secular sources and excelled at it. However, I still place scripture above what is often called “science.” If you chose to think me a “moron” then you do so at your own risk....the least of which is to be foolish in the logic.
“God gave us brains. The idea that we should not use them seems anti-Conservative to me.”
God gave us brains to worship Him, not to undermind His revealed truth. Since God created all things, then following Him, and what He has revealed, first...is the ONLY real conservatism.
Normally, I do not involve myself in disagreements with secular minded anti-Christian types. It is mostly a futile act. However, with upcoming candidates like Marco Rubio (I know little about the man) being immediately shot down for expressing Conservative Christian views on scripture and their interpretation.....and then someone on Free Republic jumping on that band wagon. Well....it just didn’t strike me as being consistent with Jim Robinson saying this site is Pro-God. Plus, it just damages the coalition that once elected Ronald Reagan...and could elect another. However, this type of rhetoric you engage in is not conducive to coalition building.
In my opinion, your type of poster should be banned from the forum. You don’t really fit in with what is best for conservatism. At a minimum, you need to confine your anti-Christian (anti-Biblical) views to the religious forums.
You have shown yourself to be ignorant on so many fronts in your posts in this thread, not to mention your penchant for lying, that it is difficult to determine which is which in some cases here. In the final analysis it really does not matter.
I am a Jew. I believe in God. Christ is not my savior. I understand that he is yours and have no problem with that. That is more consideration than you are showing me.
Science is an important part of life. When people ignore it they do themselves a great disservice and reveal something bad about themselves.
To not understand that a belief in God can co-exist with a belief in science scares me.
As to your need to whine to the headmaster here, that is within your right and if he wishes to sever my account he will. It’s his domain and he can do as he pleases. It is not yours, though.
You remind me of a kid I knew in Hebrew school. He thought that if you did not think like him you should be cast out.
Remember one thing if nothing else. You are not God, no matter how godlike you may think yourself. When one thinks he knows what is best for others to think and say he is not close to God, he is closer to supporting a climate where totalitarianism can flourish.
“You have shown yourself to be ignorant on so many fronts in your posts in this thread, not to mention your penchant for lying, that it is difficult to determine which is which in some cases here. In the final analysis it really does not matter.”
Where did I lie? You called Bible believing Christians “morons” because they put scripture ahead of science. They accept what is called “science” only when it doesn’t conflict with revealed scripture.
“I am a Jew. I believe in God. Christ is not my savior. I understand that he is yours and have no problem with that. That is more consideration than you are showing me.”
How and when was I inconsiderate of you? Did I berate your beliefs other than those that cause you to berate Christians of Biblical faith. Once again, I only stepped into this because you state, repeatedly and refuse to back off from it, that Bible believing Christians are “morons” and persons like Todd Akin are ruining the GOP. Buddy, you are speaking the liberal lie. IF you are a friend of conservatism then we don’t need anymore enemies.
“Science is an important part of life. When people ignore it they do themselves a great disservice and reveal something bad about themselves.”
You are putting secular “science” ahead of His revealed word. That is your choice. I don’t have a problem with that until you state that persons that don’t hold to as high a view of science as yourself as “morons.” I AM a scientist by education and profession. I don’t place it higher than scripture, and where the two conflict...I defer to scripture. IF you chose otherwise, that is OK...just don’t say yours is the “better” way to view things.
I keep sending this to Jim Robinson because Free Republic has too many nasty & anti-Christian posters that undermind the three legs of conservatism and create strife by their snarky comments. I have no use for Libertarians either...they also are pretend conservatives as I “believe” you are - at least your conservatism is very narrow.
I do not care whatsoever about your Judaism. IF you want to speak of it or bad mouth Christianity....then do so on the religion forum where there are the theologically trained that can deal with you. However, please stop saying derogulatory things about Bible believing conservative Christians that place scripture ahead of “science” when discusing the future of the GOP. It is inappropriate, and it really doesn’t belong.
Also, stop creating “strawman” characterizations of Conservative Christians in regards to science...we have the MSM and Democratic party to do that...they don’t need your help, especially on a fully conservative forum.
I never berated Christianity. I berated a Christian man who believes that a raped woman is less likely to become pregnant.
If you agree with him you are equally dim.
Also, and most importantly, if a Christian man is ignorant, saying he is ignorant does not condemn Christianity, it only points out the shortcomings of a human being. Unless you are confusing Akin with God, of course.
Humans are flawed. I thought true believers understood this. People like yourself are a hindrance to what they profess.
You are just a liberal with a liberal mindset that has deluded himself into thinking he is conservative. IF you are truly conservative...stop doing the bad guys work for them. Rush captured this and articulated it well:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/11/21/the_romneying_of_marco_rubio
You show your liberal bias by failing to grasp what Akin was trying to say, and the basis for it. You are openly contemptuous of those that don’t see the world through your world warped eyes.
This has been discussed at length on this forum and I see no need to further discuss it. Bottom line is that you are NOT conservative in your thinking or manner. You reek of the left. Please join the Democratic party where you best fit. Please stop destroying the GOP by berating persons of Christian faith. It is you that doesn’t belong...not the consersative Christians. Not because you are a Jew, but because you are liberal and talk the language of the left.
Calling me names means one is coming in second in a disagreement.
I understand what Akin said and you probably do, too. Just because you agree with someone’s beliefs does not mean you cannot acknowledge the man is not bright. You and yours are the reason we just lost some elections.
I want smart conservatives to run because they can win. You would rather sabotage the greater cause to blindly support the not very bright.
Since you wish to call names, I will let you know that you operate at a level below libs.
Please explain what you mean by "believe in science".
Do you mean "believe in iterative hypothesis testing over matters that are falsifiable"?
Or do you mean "believe in what scientists say because they are scientists"?
Please explain what you mean by "believe in science".
Do you mean "believe in iterative hypothesis testing over matters that are falsifiable"?
Or do you mean "believe in what scientists say because they are scientists"?
They "macaca'd" him two years before the 2008 election.
Any Republican "frontrunner" will get this pre-emptive MSM assassination; it will be SOP from now on.
-PJ
Those who believe you are less likely to become pregnant if raped. That is what I mean by stupid. I have already stated this a few times in this thread.
I stand by my statement that we have a better chance of winning if we elect smart conservatives.
All true conservatives are smart, that’s what makes them conservative. That would leave you out, since it’s obvious you are not a conservative.
In reality, “you and yours” are the reason we just lost some elections. I don’t know Akin well enough to know if he’s “bright”, but from reading you’re posts, I’m pretty sure you’re not.
If you believe a woman is less likely to become pregnant if raped, say it. Tell me those words could be uttered by a smart person.
By the way, if you criticize someone’s intelligence, make sure you demonstrate writing skills of at least a sixth grade level.
Assuming that you are a conservative, you have disproven your own theory that all conservatives are smart.
That would have been my response too.
Not too mention his attendance for twenty years in the “church” of Jeremiah Wright, who happens to be a close associate of Farrakhan. I don’t know why some pac didn’t run adds of Wright ranting about “America’s chickens coming home to roost.”
The Republicans have to take off the gloves and start fighting like street fighters.
Do you think that Hillary will start undermining Obama if the Benghazzi scandal continues to to rear its ugly head?
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