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Mars Mystery: Has Curiosity Rover Made Big Discovery?
Space.com ^ | 11/20/2012 | Curiosity

Posted on 11/21/2012 3:19:55 AM PST by djf

NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has apparently made a discovery "for the history books," but we'll have to wait a few weeks to learn what the new Red Planet find may be, media reports suggest.

The discovery was made by Curiosity's Sample Analysis at Mars instrument, NPR reported today (Nov. 20). SAM is the rover's onboard chemistry lab, and it's capable of identifying organic compounds — the carbon-containing building blocks of life as we know it.

SAM apparently spotted something interesting in a soil sample Curiosity's huge robotic arm delivered to the instrument recently.

"This data is gonna be one for the history books," Curiosity chief scientist John Grotzinger, of Caltech in Pasadena, told NPR. "It's looking really good."

The rover team won't be ready to announce just what SAM found for several weeks, NPR reported, as scientists want to check and double-check the results. Indeed, Grotzinger confirmed to SPACE.com that the news will come out at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union, which takes place Dec. 3-7 in San Francisco.

The $2.5 billion Curiosity rover landed inside Mars' huge Gale Crater on Aug. 5, kicking off a two-year mission to determine if Mars has ever been capable of supporting microbial life.

The car-size robot carries 10 different instruments to aid in its quest, but SAM is the rover's heart, taking up more than half of its science payload by weight.

In addition to analyzing soil samples, SAM also takes the measure of Red Planet air. Many scientists are keen to see if Curiosity detects any methane, which is produced by many lifeforms here on Earth. A SAM analysis of Curiosity's first few sniffs found no definitive trace of the gas in the Martian atmosphere, but the rover will keep looking.

Curiosity began driving again Friday (Nov. 16) after spending six weeks testing its soil-scooping gear at a site called "Rocknest." The rover will soon try out its rock-boring drill for the first time on the Red Planet, scientists have said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: mars; martiandesert
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To: mvpel
Oh I agree 100%
But then why send an instrument that your going to doubt the results of?
They did send a camera and it survived. Certainly a microscope, which is little more than a stack of glass lenses would make the trip.
Of course you'd have to have machinery to select samples and load slides, but they sent machinery to select and process samples.
However, in their defense. It's always easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback.
41 posted on 11/21/2012 6:38:44 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: mvpel
You have to have a lightweight microscope capable of surviving launch atop a huge pile of high explosives, nearly a year in the searing radiation of deep space, and a scorching descent through Mars' atmosphere.

Atomic Force Microscope at the ready.

42 posted on 11/21/2012 6:39:58 AM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Falcon4.0
Certainly a microscope, which is little more than a stack of glass lenses would make the trip.

ATM scans a microprobe over a surface...works in air (and in biological materials) and has a resolution down to large atoms.

43 posted on 11/21/2012 6:43:45 AM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: bgill

Either that or my car keys...

I hope their next “major announcement” is that they won’t be making any more “major announcements”!

Just put out a press release. That’s how everyone else does business.

New game on FB:
NASA Trolling for Dollars...

Zynga could make a billion, if even one of them was a decent programmer!


44 posted on 11/21/2012 6:44:14 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Falcon4.0; djf
IMO the Viking results were rejected too quickly, probably to save face after the initial hubbub. There is still no consensus as to what chemical reactions could have produced the exact results recorded. There was only so much analysis possible with the limited data obtained. But contrary to what we have been told, Viking's Martian microbes were never completely ruled out, but were set aside in light of the unexpected soil chemistry and its poorly understood effect on the instruments.

Perhaps Curiousity will finally settle the matter. But I doubt it. Nothing short of a sample return mission will suffice to remove all doubt.

45 posted on 11/21/2012 7:00:48 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jboot

Like the “rabbit on Mars”? Hoagland says that after a few days, NASA drove the rover over it and crushed it.

http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/spotlight/opportunity/b19_20040304.html


46 posted on 11/21/2012 7:16:38 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Candor7; djf

Close on the opener.

There’s an asian woman who reports NASA stuff for NHK or some other Japanese station. Supposedly they found a a metallic CocaCola bottle cap (the ones that require a bottle opener). Today most of them are screw off caps except for Mexican coke that still uses glass bottles and caps that also need openers.


47 posted on 11/21/2012 8:21:16 AM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: silverleaf

DRILL BABY DRILL!


48 posted on 11/21/2012 8:24:16 AM PST by bolobaby (Hostess closes? Atlas just shrugged in yo' faces, union beyotches!)
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To: djf

Maybe it’s a macro organism. ;-)


49 posted on 11/21/2012 8:24:29 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: tsowellfan

They would announce they found the Loch Ness monster on Mars before they would announce something like that.

A Coke bottle cap on Mars would mean one thing, and one thing only.
Man has already been there.

OK, two things.
Man was there.
And he was thirsty.


50 posted on 11/21/2012 8:28:34 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: mvpel

And so what, the magic is in the lenses. They obviously can tote lenses and cameras. We’d be talking about a custom instrument, not the sensitive and finicky apparatus we knew in biology class.

Finding biological stuff on Mars is not implausible even without some abiogenesis theory, as asteroid impacts on Earth splash material into outer space fairly frequently on a geological time scale.


51 posted on 11/21/2012 8:28:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: tsowellfan

And seriously, it wouldn’t surprise me.

I’ve heard a couple interviews with people involved in black ops and they say “Whatever you think we have, take that and add 100 years tech to it”.

They wouldn’t have retired the shuttle unless they had a replacement.


52 posted on 11/21/2012 8:32:58 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The next question becomes what other instrument or capability you give up in order to fit the interplanetary cellular microscope in the mass budget.


53 posted on 11/21/2012 8:34:06 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: djf

Maybe they found the flag that was planted there by the astronauts (according to Sheila Jackson Lee.)


54 posted on 11/21/2012 8:36:57 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: HiTech RedNeck

CCD.
Charge-coupled device.

It’s a chip, basically a photo-sensitive computer chip. The lens could literally be bonded onto the surface. Total weight? Maybe an ounce, with shielding...

Same kind of tech they use in cell phone cameras.

The magnification is dependent on the lens, the resolution is a function of the chip.


55 posted on 11/21/2012 8:42:09 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf

So what is the Shuttle replacement now that they have stopped flying?


56 posted on 11/21/2012 8:44:03 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

TR3-b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZpqpBVOa1U


57 posted on 11/21/2012 8:53:32 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf

Well it does not seem to me that it would replace any shuttle flights to the ISS. Just a recon platform if it is indeed real and in some sort of production!


58 posted on 11/21/2012 9:08:57 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

It’s anti-gravity.

Pressurize it and you can go anywhere.

Actually, “anti-gravity” is a misnomer. The electric field is at right angles to the magnetic field and there is a third vector force that is perpendicular to both.

I have a book on my coffee table by a renowned physicist who had proved it theoretically (using math and physics equations), and actually done it experimentally (measured decrease in weight after the hardware was set up).

Anti-gravity is no longer just a theory or something you see in 1950’s sci-fi movies. It exists and we are using it.
The power source is nuclear, used to gen the electricity needed to maintain the varying pulsing fields.

Jus kiddin...

;-)


59 posted on 11/21/2012 9:23:04 AM PST by djf (Conservative ideals help the poor. Liberal practice help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf

Ok like to see it unclassified!


60 posted on 11/21/2012 9:25:43 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic)
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