Posted on 11/20/2012 11:25:03 PM PST by Abiotic
The Federal-Postal Coalition -- a group representing more than two dozen federal employee unions -- pleaded with Congress on Monday to spare their members in any deal related to the "fiscal cliff."
Federal workers, the coalition wrote in a letter, have contributed more than their fair share toward reducing the debt and are the only group that has been targeted so heavily.
“Federal and postal employees and their families are hardworking, middle-class Americans who are struggling during these tough times just like other Americans,” the group wrote. “No other group has been asked to financially contribute the way they have, and it is time our nation’s leaders found other ways to reduce the deficit than continually taking from those who have dedicated their lives to public service.”
According to the coalition, federal employees have funded $60 billion in budget savings in 2011 and 2012 as a result of their ongoing pay freeze and an additional $28 billion in savings will be derived from the freeze extension through March 2013.
Federal workers also contributed $15 billion toward the budget in 2011 when the contribution rate toward retirement pensions was raised to 2.3 percent for new employees.
Top Democratic lawmakers on committees related to the federal workforce told Government Executive last week that they would like to leave federal-employee benefits out of any potential debt deal. After President Obama’s reelection, top federal unions said they were confident their members would not be targeted in such a deal and a pay raise would be instituted.
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I can well believe that you are a Postal Worker, based on the way you write and your lack of reading comprehension. You incorrectly stated that the Constitution mandates a Post Office, and I pointed out your error. You responded with an idiotic tirade about porn. Are you telling us that your job consists of delivering porn? Gee, that sure sounds worthy of taxpayer subsidy.
As for my mailbox, I don’t use it. All of my bills are electronic and I have blocked most junk mail. At my company, I *never* send anything through USPS if I can avoid it. Certainly all critical paper correspondence goes FedEx.
Sleep with digs you wake up with fleas.
Start scratchin.
This civil war, if it, actually, happens, could last a long time, and it could go on for several decades. I would be surprised if it’s quick.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The civil war is happening already. It is a demographic war
using illegal aliens, federal non enforcement of laws already on the books, a failure to follow the constitution, and thugs who pose as politicians, who espouse the view that other thugs, like Hamas for example, are freedom fighters, and so on. We now are in a civil war but the American people are asleep, conned by a Main Stream media that has repeatedly refused to inform America of the truths
that will bring various issues forward for solution.
I mean Eric Holder, our so called attor4ney general helped the president commit an act of war through gun running ( Fst & Furious) to Mexico in which hundreds of Mexicans died, and its not even news?
We are now in a civil war, and the opresident derogates to huimself authority via executive order which would make the greatest tyrants throughout history envious in the extreme.
You bet we have a civil war. The trouble is that only a few of us are fighting it.The federal government is about to feed on its own people and kill many of them.The organization to do so is in place. The first shots will soon be fired but the jockying to establish a federal tyranny have been going on for years. Look at the FEMA concentration camps, look at thousands of railway cars with shackles for human cargo in them.Look at the ammunition purchased by various federal agencies which are non military, or so we thought.Look at the fact that a census was conducted in 2008 in which every citizens home GPS location was gathered to form a precensus database capable of secret usage by the feds.
We are no longer a free nation, electoral fraud was conducted in all swing states, with turnouts exceeding the numbers of registered voters in many jurisdictions.
Yes we have a civil war now. Its just that the shooting has not yet started.We have thugs in charge of the executive arm of government. THUGS!
Things will get quite ugly.
And it's Autumn already.
Lacking reading comprehension seems to be your forte. Show me in my post were I said “the Constitution mandates a Post Office.”.....dipshit. I posted the Constitution authorizes a standing Navy, and the Post Office...if you need more education, it also authorizes an executive, legislative, and judicial branches....all others need not apply.
Your “Barely 18” magazine is a periodical...if the postage is paid, I will deliver it to you...unless you take down your mail box.
Yer still a dipshit....just sayin’...
Yes.I have already filled up 4 bushel baskets with lovely Cortland cooking apples. Crisp and juicy. I am so glad to have moved back to the British Commonwealth.The pile of crap in the USA is horrible. ....a nation consuming itself.
You are indeed correct in more than you know. The fall of America is here, and a long bleak winter will ensue.
NICE!
You’re doing a bang-up job of representing your fellow Postal Workers. Here, exactly, is where you said that the Constitution mandates the Post Office:
“I don’t think people like me have a problem with that, Defense along with the POST OFFICE is a Constitutionally mandated job of the fedgov.”
Do you see the word, “mandated?”
No wonder I receive so much misdelivered mail. You and your colleagues can’t read the addresses on the envelopes.
Just for the record please let me state that I do not think fed employees deserve to be exempted from any cuts. If that’s what it takes and will help the country then it needs to be done.
My main goal on this thread was just to let people know all of us aren’t slugs draining the US taxpayer $$.
As for the post office, if the quality of my mail service is what most folks get I dont think its worth supporting.
best regards, v_twin
Yep, it's been a while but it happened to me in 1992. Fortunately I was able to regain a position later, but I beg to differ with your RIF definition, the one I got caught in was called exactly that and I was handed an envelope with a cover letter that stated "we regret to inform you"............6 weeks later I was gone. As you probably know It's all about seniority and I had very little. As far as what you did in DC, i don't want to know! lol see you around FR. v_twin
Wah wah wah. The private sector has effectively had a pay freeze OR reduction for nearly a decade. Don't cry because you're not getting huge automatic increases based on your ability to show up for work.
“Out of all the federal workers I know personally (including my husband), only one is a loon as far as politics goes. The loon amongst them always votes for the weirdest third-party candidate there is and won’t vote for dems.”
Politics and voting are not the reasons to get rid of Federal employees.
We simply cannot afford them. They are overcompensated, over-benefited compared to the private sector (that pays for it all) and most of all they all retire as defacto millionaires.
So whether a federal employee “earns” their money or not, we can’t afford them. Your husband should figure out what he could do in the private sector, because he’ll need to know this in the likely event that a substantial number of federal employees lose their jobs.
I’m glad you aren’t a Mail Man, dipshit...I’m not Freeper JPJones. Who is misdelivering what?
I suggest you learn to read. You might actually figure out who you are posting to. I’ll bet you address your electric bill to your gas company.
PULL DOWN YOUR MAIL BOX!....dipshit.
Please read MY posts and I will eagerly await your apology.
You’re absolutely right—JP Jones is the one who incorrectly claimed a Constitutional mandate for the Post Office, and you piled on defending his position. I was mistaken in thinking you were the original poster, and you were mistaken in defending the original poster’s erroneous position.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
The fact that seniority, rather than competence, is the main criterion for employee retention during RIF speaks volumes about government workers.
1. FReeper abiotic is the original poster.
2. My ping was to YOU...nobody else. I was resonding only to YOU...I was NOT defending anyone; I WAS attacking your ignorant rant. Why YOU think I was defending anyone, I know not. The answer lies in your small mind.
3. Recap: YOU were mistaken thinking I was the OP, And YOU were mistaken thinking I was defending anyone when all I was doing was stating facts.
I suspect that retired military, retired civil service, and retired postal workers will all be put in the same boat for cuts before this is finished.
In this country, we now have the Government Party.
It is those connected with or living off the Government, its rule-making and enforcement ability, tax policy, and especially, the Government’s printed money. It includes many groups, from federal employees, to welfare recipients to large corporations.
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