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Why God Can't Get Angry (Video)
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Posted on 11/20/2012 12:48:25 PM PST by DaveMSmith
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To: MrB
>> “Im not even going to watch it.” <<
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Ditto.
Why give Satan the hits.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:28:08 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: DaveMSmith
Psalm 7:10-12
King James Version (KJV)
10 My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart.
11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
To: DaveMSmith
Psalm 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:28:58 PM PST
by
slumber1
(Don't taze me bro!)
To: DaveMSmith
>> “His glorification took place after He rose.” <<
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Sorry, no. Mary was impregnated by the Spirit of YHWH.
Jesus was God from the moment of conception, as his word plainly says.
Get thee behind us Satan.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:30:44 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: DaveMSmith
God does not get embarrassed by his anger, he is righteous - it is the “end all” to all judgment.
This guy questions Gods judgment about anger?
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To: DaveMSmith
God wrote a book about Himself.
Your ideas disagree with what He had to say.
More specifically, you disagree in detail with things Jesus said about Himself and things people who knew Jesus said about him.
So, you’re selling heresy.
Heresy’s for suckers.
Go find some suckers to sell your heresy to.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:36:12 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(There is no tagline. You must seek your answers elsewhere.)
To: DaveMSmith
“Loosing one’s temper” implies an overreaction and loss of control. God does not lose control.
If I catch a pervert molesting my daughter, my righteous anger will most likely result in the pervert's death.
It is a matter of just and unjust. What we normally get with God is unjust on the merciful side, which is good for us given what most of us justly deserve. But righteous anger exists within all good men and the Bible indicates that the Trinity is not devoid of it.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:42:37 PM PST
by
SampleMan
(Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
To: DaveMSmith
Jesus was not the Divine Human, yet when He entered the Temple. He still was a combination of Son of Man and Son of God. Jesus is God. He did get angry (justifiably so) on more than one occasion.
To: DaveMSmith
Are you saying that Jesus was sinful, and that He was not the only begotten Son of God? That’s kind of Christianity 101 stuff ...
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:50:53 PM PST
by
Theo
(May Christ be exalted above all.)
To: DaveMSmith
I don’t “generally agree” with you.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:58:08 PM PST
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: DaveMSmith
Ahh...another thread where the authority of scripture is rejected in favor of whimsy.
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posted on
11/20/2012 1:59:15 PM PST
by
Mr Rogers
(America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
To: DaveMSmith
Jesus was not the Divine Human, yet when He entered the Temple. He still was a combination of Son of Man and Son of God.
Nowhere in the "Old Testament" is The Messiah required to be G-d.
Nowhere is it taught by G-d, His prophets, nor in Jesus' words that salvation requires belief that The Messiah and G-d are the same.
Nowhere is it taught by G-d, His prophets, nor in Jesus' words that salvation requires belief in the Trinity.
All I am required are to follow G-d's Word as taught by his Son, Jesus.
To say that Jesus and his disciples (all of them 2nd Temple Jews) walked around professing that Jesus was G-d and that you had to believe he was G-d to be saved (or they were too simple to understand the concept of trinitarianism or binitarianism) is absolute nonsense and ignorance of true history and the Mission and Aims of Jesus the Galilean Jew.
However, none of that has to do with the posting or the content of the idiotic video.
The idiot that made that video probably also ignorantly believes that "G-d hates the sin, but loves the sinner."
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:03:52 PM PST
by
brent13a
To: DaveMSmith
There’s a world of difference between sinful anger and righteous anger.
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:25:06 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: DaveMSmith
Every type of christianity teaches Paul's version of Jesus and not the true historical Galilean Jew; the Jew whom walked the dusty roads of Israel and Galilee and whom was made G-d's spiritual Son and given G-d's ultimate mission at the baptism by John the Baptist.
Nowhere is it taught by G-d, His prophets, nor in Jesus' words that I am required by G-d's Law to filter Jesus' teachings through Paul's hellenistic philosophy.
Nowhere is it taught by G-d, His prophets, nor in Jesus' words that the Messiah was to bring a whole new and different religion separate from G-d's Original Word.
So what was Jesus' Mission and Aims as ordained by his (our) Father before corruption into "christianity"?
The Mission and Aims of Jesus
Jesus was concerned for the fulfillment of the restorative promises of YHWH to Israel, and the constitution of a restored relationship between YHWH and his Chosen People. P. 237 Huat Tan
The aim of Jesus was to live according to the will of YHWH, of which the Law with the Prophets formed the chief revelation. His viewpoint was ordinary Judaism, he behaved as a pious Jew of Galilee would have been expected. P. 19 Cadbury
The mission of Jesus was a proclamation of the coming of YHWHs kingly rule, a regathering or reconstituting of the tribes of Israel at the End-of-the-Age. Jesus addressed his proclamation to Israel in its promised land. P. 385 Meier
Jesus understood his main task was to be the center of the movement which was a revival. This revival was the realization of the kingdom of God among mankind on earth
P. 88 Flusser
Jesus mission was to initiate a straightforward challenge: Be better than than the Pharisees. Outdo them in righteousness. Live the Covenant with YHWH to the fullest, following the Law carefully, paying attention not only to the required conduct but also the corresponding right attitude. Plan for the kingdom of YHWH. P. 83 Wilson
Jesus took his literal message of the imminence of the end, of the Current Age, to Jews who were not faithful. Jesus taught that the 'lost' Jews should return to YHWH's true way. Jesus described Jews who had fallen away from YHWH and did not observe the Mosaic Law as they should as "sinners" and "Lost Sheep. P. 59 Casey
Jesus believed his teachings were a prophetic intensification of Jewish tradition and Mosaic Law. Jesus also taught detailed ethical instructions that were an intensification of certain aspects of the Mosaic Law. These certain intensifications were especially relevant for returning sinners. P. 60 Casey
Jesus mission was directed to all Israel both geographically and socially, it covered all regions and included all classes of Jews. It went beyond the borders of geographical Israel to Jews of the neighboring countries, and was addressed to notorious sinners, whom the national elite had ostracized and excommunicated. P. 164 Meyer
Jesus went to Jerusalem to bring his ministry and YHWH's restorative program to a climax. Jesus believed that Israel was still, to some extent, in a state of exile and therefore full restoration was still pending. P. 233 Huat Tan
Jesus understood that YHWH was seeking to gather Jerusalem. Hence, the restoration of Jerusalem to be the city of YHWH's kingship was the goal of Jesus. P. 230 Huat Tan
The sayings traditions confirm that Zion was like a magnet to Jesus and a countervailing charge of his ministry. It was understood by Jesus to be the city of YHWH's kingship and he sought the restoration of it to that kingship. P. 231 Huat Tan
Jesus is the only known Jew of ancient times to have taught that not only was the world at the threshold of the End-of-the-Age but also that the New Age of salvation had begun. P. 80 Flusser
Jesus believed in an intermediary period between the historical past and the End- of-the-Age. Jesus is also the only known Jew to have identified the kingdom of YHWH with that intermediary period. P. 86 Flusser
For Jesus the kingdom of YHWH was both present and future. Jesus believed there were already individuals living in the manifested kingdom, because the ministry of John the Baptist was when the kingdom began breaking through. P. 80 Flusser
Jesus' mission was Israel-centric, but he espoused a view of restoration that was indebted to certain strands of Israel's sacred traditions where the gentiles are implicit beneficiaries of Israel's salvation. Jesus conceived of the restoration of Israel as resulting in the salvation of the gentiles from their heathen beliefs. Since this restoration was already being partially realized in Jesus' ministry, it was becoming possible for gentiles to begin sharing in Israel's salvation in the present, by aligning themselves with the ways commanded by YHWH. P. 173 Bird
Jesus understood himself and his followers to be the new vanguard of the restored Israel, who would appropriate for themselves the role of Israel and the temple, in being a light to the corrupted world. Thus, a gentile mission has its germinal roots in the aims and intentions of Jesus and was developed, reconfigured, and reappropriated in a transformed situation by adherents of the early Christian movement. P. 173 Bird
References:
Cadbury, H.J. Purpose, Aim and Motive in Jesus in The Historical Jesus: Jesus Mission, Death, and Resurrection. London New York: Routledge, 2004.
Meyer, Ben F. Jesus Ministry and Self-Understanding in The Historical Jesus: Jesus Mission, Death, and Resurrection. London New York: Routledge, 2004.
Flusser, David. The Sage from Galilee : Rediscovering Jesus' genius. Grand Rapids, Mich: William B. Eerdmans Pub. Co, 2007.
Huat Tan, Kim. The Zion traditions and the aims of Jesus. Cambridge England New York: Cambridge University Press, 1997.
Wilson, Barrie. How Jesus became Christian. Toronto: Vintage Canada, 2009.
Casey, Maurice. From Jewish Prophet to Gentile God. Westminster John Knox, 1992.
Meier, John P. Jesus, the Twelve, and the Restoration of Israel in Restoration: Old Testament, Jewish, and Christian Perspectives. Leiden:Brill, 2001.
Bird, Michael F. Jesus and the Origins of the Gentile Mission. London New York: T&T Clark, 2007.
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:27:52 PM PST
by
brent13a
To: DaveMSmith
The simple answer is because He has already told He does.....who am I to question the mind of God?
God is NOT only love....read the Bible for His attributes. He is capable of righteous anger....end of story. Do not try and put gobbled gook definitions made up either by you or some new age weinie onto God. Read the Screwtape Letters by Lewis and you will find where you have strayed
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:31:44 PM PST
by
Nifster
To: DaveMSmith
your theology will take you straight to the gates of Hell. Unfortunately you will never recognize the anti-Christ when he comes. Good luck with that
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:33:37 PM PST
by
Nifster
To: brent13a
Excellent - we all can follow this.
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:35:10 PM PST
by
DaveMSmith
(Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
To: DaveMSmith
ANd you are so scripturally ignorant it isn’t even funny. Perhaps if you spent some time reading some CS Lewis (e.g. Mere Christianity) and the Bible itself your eyes would open. Right now your comments reveal you to be a nonbeliever of the deadly type
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:36:33 PM PST
by
Nifster
To: brent13a
“Every type of christianity teaches Paul’s version of Jesus...” I quit reading your nonsense at that point. Your lack of understanding of God and our Messiah is frightening on its face. Your ignorance drips from every word
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posted on
11/20/2012 2:39:44 PM PST
by
Nifster
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