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To: Windflier

I think you are right on.

The way Secession would happen in practice, vs theory, is that Obama and the Left will have to do something outrageous to provoke a mass secession movement. Then Texas would leave first. Texas has the economy to support it. Other conservative states would then be vastly outnumbered by the Leftist states and many would secede to join an interstate treaty organization with Texas. Then the old U.S. would have two separate economies that correlate with the two cultures that we already have. Parasites would self-deport from the Free States to get their government services.

The Free States would have to decide to use an existing currency, or they could make a new one backed by gold. Texas could trade Federal Reserve Notes for their value in gold, then use this gold as the basis for a new currency. The currency would be stable and not dependent on the Fed.

The Free States would have to form their own new military from scratch, unless they could make an agreement with the U.S. government on sharing assets.

The Free States could nationalize and annex “federal property” in the states.

Pensioners (SSN/Medicare/Medicaid) could self-deport to retain U.S. benefits. Or they could use the U.S. courts to demand compensation. But the Free States could resolve to take over this burden, keeping in mind that the Free States would not have any obligation to pay off any of the U.S. debt.

The U.N. Security Council would still include the U.S., but the Free States would have no say. This would be a big negative for the world.

Eventually, the Free States are likely to rejoin the U.S. in some kind of treaty organization. It could even be a restored 50-state U.S. with a restored 10th Amendment.


44 posted on 11/17/2012 12:32:59 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The more I think my way through the concept of secession, the more I like the idea. Here’s why:

If the regime pushes the people any harder than they’re now doing, or if the coming economic hardships and regulatory insanity cause even greater levels of anger, disillusionment, and resolve amongst the people to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, we may actually see one or more red state legislatures finally draft Acts of Secession, which would then be signed by all legally vested parties and presented to Washington.

Should Texas lead the way to the exits, I predict that at least half a dozen other states would follow in rapid succession, joining Texas in a new American Union. This would all be done without a single drop of blood shed between the rebellious states and the federals. This is the 21st century, not the 19th. No blood will be spilled over this purely political divorce.

Once several red states have disengaged themselves from the parasitic maw of Washington, the old union states will begin to falter, as the economic engine that feeds the Socialist system in this country will be too starved to meet its obligations. More red states will flee, as the days darken. Collapse and calamity in the blue states will ensue, as generationally crippled millions feed upon each other, then storm the gates of power, demanding to be fed.

Sheer bedlam will rule, and the statist infrastructure will crumble under the weight of too little real production, and too many takers to sustain.

When the old union reaches that level of failure, expect to see passionate entreaties to the former red states to reunite with the old union in a restored constitutional republic. Leftist ideals will be cast aside and burned, as reality proves what falsehoods they always were. Imagine an entire nation ‘mugged by reality.’

It’s at this point, that I see the re-unification of the country.


77 posted on 11/17/2012 5:52:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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