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To: little jeremiah; butterdezillion; thouworm; Candor7; Brown Deer; melancholy
Thanks, WND would do well to talk to butterdezillion, she would run rings around them all. You know what I've been saying all along; our research shows zero has the name of the child born to the kenyan and a girl named Anna (her maiden name would be on the original birth certificate) and that child was born in Hawaii around January 1961 just like Mary the baby-sitter said he was. Mary baby-sat the child Aunt Zeituni said the kenyan wrote home about.

That's zero on the left, it seems no one really wants to know where he was born or who his parents were. The boy sitting next to him is the son of the kenyan and Anna. She was going to put him up for adoption, but the kenyan took him to Kenya when he left the US in late 1964.

That's Barack Hussein Obama 2 (BHO2 for short) ON THE RIGHT.

24 posted on 11/17/2012 7:22:22 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: All; Fred Nerks; LucyT; philman_36

“You know what I’ve been saying all along; our research shows zero has the name of the child born to the kenyan and a girl named Anna (her maiden name would be on the original birth certificate) and that child was born in Hawaii around January 1961 just like Mary the baby-sitter said he was. Mary baby-sat the child Aunt Zeituni said the kenyan wrote home about.”

“That’s zero on the left, it seems no one really wants to know where he was born or who his parents were. The boy sitting next to him is the son of the kenyan and Anna. She was going to put him up for adoption, but the kenyan took him to Kenya when he left the US in late 1964.

“That’s Barack Hussein Obama 2 (BHO2 for short) ON THE RIGHT.”

To FReepers and lurkers who may be seeing this photo and hearing the above confusing claims (and the confusing claims about the Obama family photo several comments down): IMO the best evidence is that this is a circa 1970 photo of David and Mark Obama, as claimed by Mark (formerly Obama) Ndesandjo. The picture was first posted by Mark and is also posted and identified as being of Mark and David by another Obama half-brother, his older brother, Malik.

The strange, frankly incoherent claims made about the two photos (the two boys, Mark and David) and then the family photo of BHP Sr with his wife Ruth and their two sons, Mark and David) have been posted in furtherance of an hidden agenda of promoting an alternative narrative that Malcolm X is Barry Obama’s dad and a Lebanese actress, Valerie Sarruf, is Barry Obama’s mom. This is called the Mal-Val Narative.

You won’t get that from the comments in this thread about the Arpaio Cold Case Posse, but that is what the posting of these pictures and the strange claims about them are about.

An FR article about the Mal-Val narrative already has over 1000 comments and invited posting of “research” evidence in support of the Mal-Val claims including claims that the two boys are not who Mark Ndesandjo says they are. Her is the link and the article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts

Re:”Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man” Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama’s mom? (vanity)

Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:18:33 PM by Seizethecarp

“Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.” Dr. Ron J. Polland

The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.

In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.

Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?

Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.

For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!

Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.

For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.

The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?

In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.

Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 8:31:10 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from mini-drone attacks in the "Runway Kill Zone" (search term))
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To: Fred Nerks

Wow. There are two of them. Where is #2 now?


51 posted on 11/18/2012 3:13:46 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes indeed. Bumping for a photo that needs to be seen and a simple explanation.


76 posted on 11/18/2012 8:08:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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