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The Best or Worst Pollsters in the 2012 Election – How did Nate Silver Do It? (Gallup is Dead Last)
Patheos ^ | 11/13/2012 | Tim Suttle

Posted on 11/14/2012 8:36:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/14/2012 8:36:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Pollsters set the vote percentage to aim for, then the hacked machines did the rest, simple. Its all a game now that is playing us like charms.


2 posted on 11/14/2012 8:40:08 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SeekAndFind
Silver still didn't predict Obama's 7.5 million voter drop off. That means his real method is to pull this stuff out of his nether regions and toss it against the wall.

That he did better than the others was luck ~ probability that he'll do as well again is ZERO. But he'll get the marketing business this year and they won't.

3 posted on 11/14/2012 8:42:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

The Chicago Mob shared their projected voter fraud outcomes with him.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 8:45:27 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SeekAndFind

He figured out what was going on with Twitter and Facebook and was not calling land-line phones.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 8:47:46 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Gallup should have been dead on with Obama vs Romney numbers because they use cell phones in their polling now. BUT - If you look at their data download, problem was they were shut down several days from huricane Sandy and that kind of messes up a milti-day rolling average. Their Obama approval poll however kept on going through the storm. If you look at Obama’s numbers alone it explains election day.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 8:53:32 AM PST by ExxonPatrolUs (The Ameritopian Motto: Gov The Sheeple, Buy The Sheeple, Bore The Sheeple)
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To: muawiyah

I’d hardly call it luck, considering that he called the last two presidential elections correctly (hitting 50 of 50 in the latest) and projected a significant Republican gain in the last mid-terms.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 8:54:53 AM PST by Coronal
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To: Coronal

He called them correctly. HOWEVER, his probability for an 0bama win was >90%. There is NO WAY to prove that it wasn’t, say, 70%.

However, his model has been fairly accurate (more accurate than most) at calling many races across the country.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 9:07:05 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: muawiyah

You can pretend that it was luck if that makes you feel better but all the aggregators got most of the states right.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57546778-38/among-the-top-election-quants-nate-silver-reigns-supreme/


9 posted on 11/14/2012 9:07:52 AM PST by FewsOrange
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To: SeekAndFind

There was such a split between two groups of pollsters that I have to think these polls were being used to justify a fraudulent outcome. Those that the administration could manipulate knew the outcome ahead of time.

During the runup I kept telling my wife that I thought they were using the polls to demoralize people or to justify their inevitable calls of suppression. She just kept saying that the polls were just telling us how much they plan on cheating. Now, I think she was right.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 9:08:16 AM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: SeekAndFind
https://twitter.com/nateDRUNKsilver

I just opened an envelope postedmarked 2004 & removed a note that said "Karl Rove is a buffoon". Easiest prediction ever.

11 posted on 11/14/2012 9:18:50 AM PST by ksen
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To: cizinec

And no way to prove that he wasn’t correct.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 9:24:05 AM PST by Coronal
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To: SeekAndFind

Mabye he knew the computer programer of the voting machines!!!


13 posted on 11/14/2012 9:26:29 AM PST by dalereed
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To: SeekAndFind

They factored in vote fraud.

Very few people in the inner cities have land lines so how did they question any of them??? They didn’t. They just knew that there would be enough fraud PRN to get them over the top.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 9:32:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: sunmars
all this polling talk is MOOT since there really wasn't an election.....

any insider rat could have predicted what was going to happen 2 yrs ago....

Romney DID win in a landslide...

15 posted on 11/14/2012 9:43:23 AM PST by cherry
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To: jackmercer

Ping to FR’s own master poller. Jackmercer is one of the (VERY) few who called this election correctly. He got slaughtered for it, but he was right.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 9:44:34 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Uncle Chip; sunmars; All



Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here




SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.


MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:

>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Here’s What You Can Do:

>> These electi... http://bit.ly/Zzam8Y

Here

Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here




The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

Astonishing!)

> Visit the site- Here
Sign this petition- Here


Another website:

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount? If you wish to add your voice, click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-


< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here


Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here



Must watch videos!


VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting-

Here


VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here


VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here


VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here


VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here

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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!

Join us!! See thread, 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread- Here




17 posted on 11/14/2012 9:51:23 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texas girl)
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To: SeekAndFind

He was fed internal poll data by the Chicago gang?


18 posted on 11/14/2012 10:04:09 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: cherry
I refuse to believe that 100's of thousands of people conspired across nearly a dozen swing states and no one came to a republican office demanding money for proof. Sounds legit.

If you want to stay in your echo chamber go ahead, but if you want to come out to the real world us conservatives have a lot of people to talk to, reform to implement, and minds to change. If you want to help we could really use you. but spreading conspiracy nonsense just because you don't like the results isn't going to help anyone.
19 posted on 11/14/2012 10:05:31 AM PST by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: FewsOrange

Show one pollster who got the number of votes for Obama correct ~ there’s a reason they stay away from that


20 posted on 11/14/2012 10:06:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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