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The GOP Has Problems With White Voters, Too
The New Republic ^ | November 12, 2012 | Nate Cohn

Posted on 11/13/2012 2:21:04 PM PST by neverdem

With the national exit poll showing Obama winning with just 39 percent of white voters, a smaller share than any Democrat since Mondale, the emerging conventional wisdom holds that a demographic tidal wave of minority turnout cost Romney the presidency. As a result, Republicans are focusing on their poor performance with the burgeoning Latino population; even Sean Hannity says he's "evolved" on immigration reform. But while the national exit poll data give the impression that Romney got the job done with white voters, Romney's stellar national performance obscures stark regional differences that suggest the GOP has its own problem with white voters. 

Romney’s strong national showing among white voters was almost exclusively driven by historic support from Southern and Appalachian white voters. In many counties, Obama’s performance was the worst by any Democrat since McGovern or, in some places, ever. Even a quick glance at overwhelmingly white, Southern, or Appalachian counties with a history of offering even limited support to Democratic candidates shows Obama performing anywhere from 15 to 30 points worse than Kerry did eight years ago. Obama even lost more than 50 points compared to Kerry’s performance in several “coal country” counties in southern West Virginia and eastern Kentucky.

Outside the South, Romney’s performance among white voters was anything but historic. He ran behind Bush’s tallies in most of the northern half of the United States. While some believed that Obama’s weakness among white voters would translate into opportunities for Romney in overwhelmingly white states like Iowa, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin, Obama ultimately won these three states by 5.6 to 6.9 points, even though Bush never lost any by more than 1.3 points. More broadly, you can quickly consider changes in Democratic support among white voters between '04 and '12 in the nine states where whites represent at least 85 percent of the population. These states aren't exactly representative of white voters elsewhere, but the big picture is about right: outside of the South, Romney ran behind Bush among white voters, but he made up for it in Appalachia and the rest of the South. 

Obama also preserved many of his gains in affluent and well-educated suburban counties where many believed that Romney would perform well. Republicans won Jefferson, CO, Chester, PA, Loudon, VA, Wake, NC, and Somerset, NJ, in every presidential election from 1968 through 2004, but Obama carried all of them with the exception of Chester County, where Obama’s performance was still better than any other Democrat since Johnson. Obama also performed near ’08 levels in moderate Democratic-leaning suburbs like Fairfax, Polk, Franklin, Hennepin, or Oakland Counties. 

It's important to remember that the nation's best-educated counties are increasingly among its most diverse (whites were just 72 percent of the population in 37 counties without a major university where 40 percent or more of adults hold a Bachelor's degree), but it's clear from the results in relatively white counties (80 percent or more) like Jefferson and Larimier, CO, or Delaware, OH, that Obama's big gains over Kerry's performance in well-educated areas aren't just a product of demographic changes.

Making matters worse for Republicans, Democratic Senate candidates ran as well as or ahead of the president in white areas in just about every competitive state, including Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Florida, and Ohio. The performance of these candidates suggests that the GOP's issues extend beyond specific problems with Romney or the unique appeal of the president. This particular writer can't judge whether Republicans were hurt more by abortion, tax policy, or something else, but it's clear that Romney's issue among rural, white northerners wasn't just Bain Capital, and his problem in affluent suburbs wasn't just his pledge to end funding to Planned Parenthood.

If Romney's historic performance among white voters manifested evenly across the electoral map, then Republicans could justifiably consider their “demographic challenge” as their primary obstacle to victory in 2016. But the Republicans shouldn't let their national standing among white voters obscure their real challenges with white voters outside of the South. It’s not useful for Republican strategists to take solace in Obama's 39 percent showing among white voters if Obama still managed to do much better than Kerry or Gore in states like Iowa, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Colorado, and Minnesota. In the Electoral College system, turning "lean Republican" states like Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Missouri into "solid Republican" states just doesn't matter.



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To: Strategerist

The South is a separate country of patriots, and should be Independent of the Government slave driving north.

I told a lady today I diden’t care about the victims of hurricane sandy because I felt they deserved it. I feel in hinesite that was perhaps a little harsh and certantly non-diplomatic.

But in my heart I know the North for historic reasons deserves much of what Sandy and the subsequent storm has brought upon them. They were not prepared they turned away help simply because that help didn’t happen to measure up to their “high & mighty* standards. They deserve to suffer for their choices. I don’t want one more nickle going to help those slave driving bastards.


21 posted on 11/13/2012 3:38:59 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: neverdem

Bottom line...the bigger government gets and the more things it touches, the more the Democrats can flex a muscle to compel votes. Look at the newly introduced contraception mandate, added by HHS in February of this year. They add it in, force religious institutions to give birth control to employees (against their beliefs) and then spend nine months crowing about a ‘war on women’. Completely fabricated, and all from a minor tweak to the unlimited regulatory control given to that department of the government. This is not new, but now that health care is controlled by government it will be an endless weapon wielded by the Democrats.

This crosses all colors, sexes, religions, etc. It is frightening...and it works.


22 posted on 11/13/2012 3:54:15 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: neverdem
whites were just 72 percent of the population in 37 counties without a major university where 40 percent or more of adults hold a Bachelor's degree

That's the most ridiculous statistic I've seen in years. How deep do you have to dig to prove I mean support oh, heck your assumption to make yourself look like a total dope to come up with a number like that?

Asinine.

23 posted on 11/13/2012 4:17:33 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Uncle Lonny
John Derbyshire touches on this. Here's a brief excerpt from a fairly long but worthwhile read. Written Nov 10, 2012.

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05 — The shape of things to come. What about the future, then? Does the Republican Party have a future?

As I have been saying, there is no unity among white Americans. The old splits of education, class, sex, religion, city-country, and of course North-South still divide whites, and that is the basis of most of our politics. The Republican Party is white, sure enough, but whites aren't Republican.

This will presumably be less and less the case as whites head for minority status. At some point the fact of impending minority status will sink in, and whites will begin to sink their differences and circle the wagons. At some point the Lee Kuan Yew principle will take over. I've quoted it before, and I'll quote it again, because it's very quotable in this context. Quote from Lee Kuan Yew, who was Prime Minister of Singapore for thirty years, and the power behind the curtain for a further twenty in that very successful city-state, quote:

'In multiracial societies, you don't vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion'

http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2012-11-10.html

24 posted on 11/13/2012 4:41:39 PM PST by Ken H
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To: neverdem

I have a problem with the Gutless Old Pretenders:

They are worthless cowards who will turn on us every time it counts.

(See tagline)


25 posted on 11/13/2012 4:53:09 PM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: neverdem

Our side has to wrestle control away from the media, and get our side out earlier and often. The fact that people made decisions in this cycle on race, and women’s issues is purely absurd. There was literally nothing on the ballot. Millions of voters who are smart enough to know the economy is being suffocated by Washington DC voted for more of it. We have to get our message out around the media, or it will be death of us as a nation.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 5:35:51 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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27 posted on 11/13/2012 6:22:21 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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28 posted on 11/13/2012 6:22:48 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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29 posted on 11/13/2012 6:23:46 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I think the system is having problems again,....just posted an articl and got no feedback that the article had been posted......when it had actually posted it....


30 posted on 11/13/2012 6:28:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: ilgipper

We have to take back education! the hippies took it over in the 60’s and developed their 40 year plan....we are seeing it’s fruit!

The ‘elite’ intelligensia is ‘guiding’ the administration and the young masses have been brainwashed.


31 posted on 11/13/2012 6:35:14 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 11/13/2012 8:20:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: BfloGuy
I will speculate that most of those 37 counties include a state capitol or Washington D.C.

Wherever you find a concentration of well educated minorities, you will also find a concentration of government jobs.

And, yes, that is one Orca sized jumble of statistics packed into one sentence.

33 posted on 11/13/2012 10:10:03 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; neverdem
Ernest - neverdem,

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34 posted on 11/13/2012 10:24:46 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: neverdem
Forgive me for the source, but if the numbers are correct, the problem is working class whites outside the south.

I think the problem might be that Republican candidates are growing increasingly "moderate" (getting further to the left of LBJ).

That makes it tougher to pick up votes, and I know the last two elections, the POTUS candidate came from the bottom 1/3 of my list out of all the primary contenders. Now we are told if we just pick a more socialist candidate we are sure to win, but where is the victory in electing what we are allegedly voting against?

You just can't get the vote out that way, even with Duh-1.

The real suffering occurs down ticket, though, another 3500 R voters (before any recount) and Berg would have likely taken the Senate seat, so picking socialistic candidates instead of strong Conservatives hasn't worked, and has hurt elsewhere as well.

35 posted on 11/14/2012 12:00:01 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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